Berean. …..“I Jesus have sent my “messenger” to testify  these thing unto the Churches. 

now as youself,  who “testified” those things unto TO THE CHURCHES,  it was not an Angel, it was the apostle John  who gave the testimony,   he was given , by Jesusm  unto the churches?

JOHN  is the one who wrote the book of Revelations,  and gave it t…[Read more]

Berean……that messenger  of God was Jesus Christ himself.  Notice he even said , he was “of thy “brethern” , the Prophets, ,  who do you know was prophesied to be “of thy brethern , and a prophet? ,  

The are about 3 or 4 scriptures that says Jesus was of your “brethern”, and he also was a “prophet”. 

Acts 3:22 , “For Moses truly said unto…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Good, you at least read it, but you again are wrong,  it was Jesus talking to him all the way through, trinitarians wanted to make it appear as through it switched to a different person, from Rev 22 verse 7 then switch at verse 8-11 and back again to Jesus in verse 12 and 13.

Why you might ask,  because how would it look if it w…[Read more]

Berean……You haven’t answered my question of Rev 22: 7-10 , why is that? , are you afraid you might not have seen something there?  Would like it to have it’s own thread, if we can.  There are some very interesting things there that could be brought out. How trinitarian translator hid something about Jesus, and what he saidm  See if you can fi…[Read more]

Berean and all…..read Rev 22:7-13,   make a study of it, and tell me how many being are being descussed  there. , Are there 1, 2, or 3.?  LET’S go through it together  slowly OK?  SEENING Proclaimer hasen’t  started a topic on it.

Verse 8…..Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keeps the sayings of the prophecy of this book.…[Read more]

Berean,  you mean the church that believes in the trinity or, God the Father, God the Son, And God the Holy Spirit?

But Jesuse believe there were “only” one true God. AND the church believed and preached that the was “only” one God, and only “one” mediator between men and God the “MAN” Jesus.  Who said clearly OVER 80 TIMES, that he was “a SON OF…[Read more]

Keras,  pay no attention  to what Proclaimer said , he’s possessed with going around and attacking what me and Jodi post.

Your post was very good.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Proclaimer. … both Jodi and I have dealt with all those scriptures, as relating to both the old Testement and the new.  You need to be like the Berean’s we search the scriptures, for the real truth, and believe what Jesus said, he was and is the root and offspring of King David.

You select scriptures then add words into them that meat your…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..you are basically saying you chose to save your own self, by your own so-called freewill self decisions, that is not what scripture says.  “for you are saved by “Grace” and not of “yourself’ it is a “gift” from God.” , and again ,  “they are “all” gone out of the way  they are together become unprofitable , there is none that do…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  does God “ask” you or “command” you.  GOD did not “ask” Adam and Eve, not to eat of the tree of Good and Evil, he cammanded them not to eat from it or they would die. Please not he was not just talking about  chosen one or the other,  like choosing good or evil. He was talking about then not taking to themselves either one “good” or…[Read more]

Proclaimer, no I said “freedom” to express our “captivated”  wills. Nothing Free about the will itself.  It seems that’s hard for you to understand,  maybe if you go back a see the video again it may help you better understand it.  

Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

Berean,  Jesus did say it clearly,  but you like those Pharisees,  miss understood him.  They were blind also.  That is why Jesus spoke to them in Parables, so they wouldn’t understand, he even said that he spoke to them in parable for that specific reason,  just like you don’t understand what he meant either.

Peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..Jesus never said he was ever “alive before Abraham was”, that your play on words that are not written that way in our text.  That is you people forcing the text to say what in fact is not being said or insinuated either.  

You people seem so ignorant you can’t even understand,  that the Jews were alway using their connection to A…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  God’s Spirit does more then just give you an option , it completely changes your thinking.  “I will take out of them the stony heart and give them a heart of flesh (soft heart) , I will write my laws in their inward parts” , I think that is more then just give you an option. 

Go back and what your or Edj’s video you posted says…[Read more]

Edj…..Where have I ever said we don’t have freedom to excerise our Wills’ at? I am talking about the Will “itself”. I don’t want to move on, until you tell me you do understand  that. OK because it is nothing but a waste of time,  for me to keep repeating over and over the same things and it goes right over your heads. 

You very own  video , y…[Read more]

Prolaimer….. Jesus was the “firstborn”  to be given eternal life and enter the kingdom of God “from mankind” . 

Proclaimer……here’s one for you people to study,  let’s talk about what it is saying  go read

Rev 22: 7-13 ……. do you think there were three different beings speaking there Jesus,  John, an a Angel, or was it just two, Jesu…[Read more]

Edj,…..what you and they do not understand is that Jesus is the “anointed” one,  he is “NOT” the anointing  he was anointed with. GET IT? 

JESUS WAS A MAN, who was “anointed” with the Holy Spirit of God, that is why he is call the CHRIST,  “THE ANOINTED ONE. 

Jesus  did not “preexist” his birth on this earth,  period!, that’s the point of b…[Read more]

Proclaimer….. so according to your logic,  we should believe that JOSEPH preexisted his birth with Jacob’s other childern right?   because he was given the Firstborn rights which was a bouble portion in Israel.   But you see he was not the actual first born of Jacob, that was “Ruben” , but the double portion firstborn , birth right,  want to Jo…[Read more]

We all came in the flesh, except Adam and Eve.  How does taking a preexisting being and killing him and cause he to be born through the flesh womb of a women,  equate to a “actual” Idenity with mankind?, truth is it dosen’t equal to a humanity.  That c would being giving Jesus and c advantage, from his past knowledge, he would not be tru…[Read more]

Proclaimer….. “by man sin intered the world” and by “Man” it is atoned for.  Rom 5: 15, shows it was by one “man” , we recieved the grace of God,  it dosen’t say by one preexisting being of some kind we are saved,  please show us where that is written in our scriptures anywhere, That God morphed a eternal preexisting being into a man, and mad…[Read more]