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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva…. O it did matter to trinitarian translators, thats why they upper and lower cased the word. Please don't take our word for it look it up for yourself. The differences you mentioned have nothing to do with Jesus' likeness of us, it has to do with God's Spirit with Him and the preordained destiny that God performed in this man Jesus. If…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72…..> One of the greatest deceptions ever on man kind is this idea that Jesus was different then us. Why?, because it discourages people, Who?. it makes us think we really can't truly be exactly like Jesus, and we cant aspire to what He Did, because after He's God and we know were not, So we then disregard our likeness to Jesus and thats…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    sorry about the double take, hit the wrong button.gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72…..You assumption that Jesus' Godly nature was his own is wrong, Jesus plainly said He could do nothing of Himself, but the Father who was (in Him) did the works. That shows a destination between He and God . Jesus is called the Christ, what does that mean, it means he was anointed, if he was anointed by The Father God with Holy Spirit,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72…..You assumption that Jesus' Godly nature was his own is wrong, Jesus plainly said He could do nothing of Himself, but the Father who was (in Him) did the works. That shows a destination between He and God . Jesus is called the Christ, what does that mean, it means he was anointed, if he was anointed by The Father God with Holy Spirit,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva…..> The word God either upper case or lower case isn't important, whats important is the meanning of the word. According to Jeff Benner in His book, The mechanical translation of Genesis, the word used for God is Elohim , and should be translated as (POWERS) and the word LORD, should be translated as (HE EXISTS), So if we say the Lord…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72…> right to image something is (NOT) the same as What being imaged, the word image means to mirror as when we look in a mirror and see our reflection, the reflection is an image of us but it is NOT us, but reflects us. The same is true with God, He wants us to image Him, not think we are Him, Big Difference. But Man doesn't want to image…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    tonycd……I all the scriptures you quoted , no where do you quote Jesus or any apostle or anyone else as saying (Jesus is GOD the Father) I mean no where is that spicifically said, In fact the opposit is stated even by Jesus himself. I am not going theough hundreds scriptures that disprove what your saying, but ill just give you some to answer…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 10 2008,14:16)Wj you said,.That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Tonycb……The problem here is adding words to what the actual text says. Like where it says me and the Father are one. That can be taken several different way, some take it as Jesus saying he is God the Father Himself, but if you consider put other scriptures, it becomes obvious Jesus did not mean He was God, He meant he was in one agreement…[Read more]

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    WJ……..your tweaking scriptures again, by adding things that are not specifically said. If you are going to quote a scripture why add words that are there in the original text. Where it say's in Hebrews “every (Spirit) that confess not that Jesus came in the Flesh is not of God. Where do you get (The word/God) at, it certainly isn't in the…[Read more]

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    Jodi…….Amen sister.love and peace to you and yours…………gene

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    T8………remember it says you are (CREATED) unto good works, God is the only Creator. And He Creates in us the will and desire for good works, by His Spirit. Being transformed by the (renewing) of your minds. This transformation is not of the self, it from God. The disciples of Jesus failed continually when Jesus was with then, But once the Holy…[Read more]

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    Cato…..i take the road God always know and intended man to experience Good and evil in order to gain wisdom he need. Didn't Jesus say “you shall all be taught by God”, God has not allowed all this without purpose. T8…..why do you think it says the Carnal Mind is a enemy to God, is not subject to the laws of God, neither indeed (CAN) be. The…[Read more]

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    T8…..Also i meant to say there was only one tree that produced the fruit of Good and evil that fruit comes from the same tree can from one tree. And the understanding of good and evil is what gives wisdom. It's a rough road but the end is understanding what good is and what evil is they explain each other. You can't understand one without the…[Read more]

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    T8…… Don't you think God know all along man was going to do what He did, why does it say Jesus was crucified from the foundations of the earth, wasn't it because God already know what was going to happen, why did He even gives Us weakened condition in the first place if it wasn't His will we fall. If you believe what it says, that God Knows…[Read more]

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    gollamudi……….you got it right, and it's evident that God is working in your life, because your perceive truth.peace to you and yours Adam………………..gene

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    theodorej………the reason we still sin is because we still have sin in the carnal part of our minds driving our choices but the spiritual mind in drives our choices in a different direction, we are begotten children not yet born Children , the apostle Paul explains this war going on in our members. The Carnal Mind is contrary to the Spirit and…[Read more]

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    Cato……..> i do agree with some of what you said, with the exception of (FREE WILLS) Wills yes, but to say they are free, NO.All choices are the result of what was installed in a person at some time in there lives and when a person has to make a decision he pulls on these previously installed thoughts and derives a choice, and as a result…[Read more]

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    T8…………..> our choices is not sovereign, God is Sovereign , we did not choose to love God He chose to love us first and that caused us to love Him. T8, if God were to continue let our wills be the determining fact for things, there would continue to be total kayos in everything like it is now, only for ever, No man so called (FREE Will)…[Read more]

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