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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Tim……he doesn't , my mistake, i meant to say WJ. SORRY……T8peace to you and yours……………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Isa1:18……..> Have you went back and reread what you wrote, Frist od i think you ignorance of scripture's is quit obvious, and contradictory, on the one hand you quote something then proceed to show how it doesn't mean what it says, so you and T8 interpret it to suite your trinitarian ideologies. You say when Jesus said ,”the son of man could…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 18 2008,15:51)Define “being” for me Gene.Isa 1:18………i know being carries a large variety of meanings, But to me it's a Soul with it's own separate and unique Will. As we are all beings existing with our own separate souls, personalities, and Wills. Thats how i view it anyway.peace to you……..gene

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    Isa 1:18…..> you have come to see Jesus and God the Father are different beings and your right and being different beings they have different Wills and thats the Key the Will's If God the Father is to be in all, He must cause all Wills to conform to His Will. And the only way that can Happen He must be present in them by co-habiting as he was in…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    T8…….> Mandy said she lost faith in some of the scriptures, and obliviously as we prove over and over here that scriptures are mistranslation, miss applied, and miss used and misunderstood. If Mandy miss understood something you said, you should have apologized and offered Her the right explanation of what you meant. When did Mandy say she…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    T8……I believe you hurt Mandy's feelings and that was wrong of you, “why behold the mote in they brothers eye and see not the beam in thy own eye”, Mandy has added many good insights into things here, and none of us have (ALL) the truth do we, doesn't it say we are to grow in grace and Knowledge. Kejonn, Mandy, Stu, Martian,Tim, Mrs, Jodi. WJ,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 17 2008,10:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 14 2008,02:00)gsilva72………….Yes Jesus is lord, but don't stop there, because scripture shows that we should confess Jesus as lord, to the (GLORY OF GOD), lets not leave that part out. Where Thomas said my lord (AND) my God, it finely downed on Thomas the God the Father was in…[Read more]

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    Mandy…….> the doctrine of the trinity is inferior and has nothing to do with the truth of God. Anyone who has the truth of God in them can easily see the deception of the trinity doctrine. Everyone who has God's spirit will not follow these false teachings.Mandy don't let these deceivers intimidate you . They have no idea of what there…[Read more]

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    gollamudi…….> God has given you the Spirit of Truth and it has delivered you from the corruption of false Christianity, and don't let false gibberish sway you, you have pure faith given you by our Father Just lean on Him, Yoke with Him the way Jesus our Brother and High priest did, You never know what God the Father has in mind for you in…[Read more]

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    WJ…….Ill start by saying i have come to a different understanding about the word GOD then i used to. I don't Know if you have read Jeff Benners Book (the Mechanical Translation of the Book of Genesis) or not, but its quite interesting, because there has never been a mechanical translation done before from what I've heard. Anyway his book…[Read more]

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    WJ……> A word is an intelligent utterance, John was simply saying that God's word was in the beginning and was with God and was God. It plainly say;s that. Now if you and the rest of the trinitarian Scholars want to say it means something other them what it expressly says that up to you. I simply believe it as it is written and apply the word…[Read more]

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    Not3in1…..Right , Jesus is the beginning and end of God The Fathers Plan for all humanity. Right on Mandy.love and peace to you and yours………………gene

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    gsilva……remember Revelations is what GOD the Father (Gave) to Jesus to show His servants what must shortly come to past. And He, God,sent and (SIGNIFIED) by His angle or messenger to His servant John. Gsilva if you check out the word (signified) you'll find it means symbolized it. Revelation cannot be understood with understanding the symbols…[Read more]

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    gsilva…….the alpha and omega of what, I contend it means the first and last of God creation of man into his Image, Jesus was the first, to achieve it, and the last will be just like Him. He is how it begins and ends with us all. The absolute example to us.Most people think that refers to all things but it doesn't specifically say that does it?

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    WJ……> you implying the word (WORD) is is not (JUST) a thought , saying or plan. Show your lack of understanding of what the Word of God is, it is more powerful the a two edged sword, separating the bone from the morrow it says. So I doint think if we take John as using the word (word) for its actual meanning is down grading anything do you,…[Read more]

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    gsilva72…….> The word God does no imply deity it implies (POWERS) or domains of authority, thats why human or angles can have the name God applied to them also. While a deity can posses powers and be called God also, and Jesus even said that, saying ” for THOU art the ONLY TRUE GOD. Jesus was showing us that there is only one true Deity, and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Martian……hope you get well soon…….Gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72…..> the problem you and many others have is with the Word God. God is a relative term it simple means (POWERS) with references to dominions and authority, It has nothing to do with the composition or essences or make up of a person at all. Jesus could be called God and it would have nothing to do with his equality with God the Father.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gollamudi…..> I have heard that before also that there were two different God's , But scripture says there is only one God. And is state in the old testament and new as,”Hear O Israel the Lord our God is One Lord”, And God Himself said there is no God Besides Me, I know not ONE, He said.Adam…. You have to remember there are thousand of false…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    gsilva72………….Yes Jesus is lord, but don't stop there, because scripture shows that we should confess Jesus as lord, to the (GLORY OF GOD), lets not leave that part out. Where Thomas said my lord (AND) my God, it finely downed on Thomas the God the Father was in Jesus and was present there also, God was indwelling Jesus through His Spirit,…[Read more]

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