WJ………..Jesus is the unique One because of His berth and His ministry which was (foreordained) from the foundations of the earth. He was the second (ADAM) born like Adam by the direct Hand of God. That makes Him unique and it also made Adam and Eve unique also. Has nothing to do with His so called equality with God or Deity Trinitarians…[Read more]

Adam………….Amen brother….> the triune God ideologies is not only in the pagan teachings of India but also in the Pagan teaching of the Greeks and Egyptians and the early church was infected with these false teachings. The whole concept of the trinity has it's origins in paganism. The bishops from the areas of Egypt and Greece like…[Read more]

cato……Your right…..though there be many gods but to us and Jesus there is ONLY (ONE) TRUE GOD>Who is the God of Gods, “Hear “O” Israel the LORD our God is (ONE) LORD> Jesus quoted that also.peace to you and yours………..gene

WJ….. who's not fixing a value on the the Son, I as a man Just like Him can see a far greater value in His life then you < I know If a man Just like Me was able with the Help of God the Father to become perfect and never sin and learn obedience by the things He suffered, SO CAN I WITH GOD THE FATHER'S HELP, I can grow unto the (full) Measure of…[Read more]

jhenTus……….Constantine was tutored by and Arian bishop, but never showed conversion and went Back and forth trying to appease both sides at times. One time he exiled Arius after the council of Neica in 325 AD then exiled Anthanious later it went back and forth for years. And from the Anathenius came the teaching of the Trinity, that Jesus…[Read more]

gollamidi………..Good post…….If you go to any trinitarian church you would be lucky to even Hear the Man of the Farther mentioned, they have replaced Him with Jesus and as you said Jesus is the (WAY) to the Object, which is God the Father, How simple , but trinitarians have made the object Jesus, Jesus said I am the (DOOR) the door is not…[Read more]

Cato…..You are right, the word God by it self does not mean Deity, at all. So Jesus could be a mighty God and still not be a Deity and is not the LORD GOD, who is the ONLY DEITY.IMO……gene

WJ…..> slow down and read what you quote, Isa 44:24..> Thus says the (Lord), your Redeemer, and He who formed you from the womb; I and the (Lord) who makes all things, who stretched out the Heavens all (ALONE) who spreads abroad the earth by (MYSELF). While the (LORD) is a GOD He also gave many other Gods Look up the the word Eloyhim and see how…[Read more]

T8……It's simple the word For God is Elohiym means (POWERS) and that all it means, even strong admits that, It can be attached to a Deity Like the LORD GOD, > which Means (HE EXIXTS) of (POWERS). It's just that simple and If you go to the Sir Issac Newton Project and read the Scholuim papers He wrote He explains it clearly.If we say LORD GOD,…[Read more]

WJ…….The Holy Spirit is God the Father's own spirit and is given to us from Him it is in Jesus and all who have it. Its the same Spirit Jesus Had in Him. Thats why He said the Father was in Him, you can say the same thing if you have it in you. “For it is GOD who works in you to both will and do His pleasure.” Same Father as Jesus, the Same…[Read more]

gsilva…..in the above i meant to say 1JOHN 5:7-8 sorry,……gene

gsilva……….> if you care to look at the center margin of your bible you will find 1John 1:7-8 is not in the bible and was added by a trinitarian translator. Then you using that and jumping to John 1:1 and other texts to try to support you belief system is pure non sense.It has been explained to you before (THERE ARE NO UPPER CASE OR LOWER…[Read more]

To all……the topic of this thread is, How is Jesus (not) God> That depends on the word GOD. If we conceder what the word Means then we can see the truth. According to Jeff Benner in his book the mechanical translation of Genesis, He shows how a Hebrew man or woman would have understood the term God, at the time the Exodus. He broke the word…[Read more]

WJ…… what i said to Nick goes Ditto for you, who do you think Jesus was talking about when He said (THOU ART THE ONLY TRUE GOD) HIMSELF OR GOD THE FATHER< John said GOD not Jesus , He know exactly who God was and who Jesus was and I don't see Jesus used there do you?, Of course you do, because you don't know the difference do you?. And anyone…[Read more]

Nick……You see thats the problem no matter How clear something is you just go with your own opinions, where is the word Jesus in the text, guess what IT”S NOT THERE>So why try to put it there, don't you think John new how to spell Jesus and if that what He was implying He would Have Just said it. And You say” should we (Just) take (YOUR) word…[Read more]

Nick……. Where do you get i am losing faith in scripture at. It says that the (summation) of Gods word is truth. Not picking out a little here and there. Isa 28:13..> but the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little; that they might go, and shall…[Read more]

Well a lot of scholars would disagree with you on scriptures being adulterated or adapted to suite a Human doctrine, The whole Idea of trinity proves that. Whole sentences were added to the texts, and influencing done by upper and lower casing letters.To just mane a few. Scripture may not be as pure as you think Nick.peace to you ……….gene

Nick…..I meant to add, this idea God or a super being came down as a Man theology, comes from the pagan Greek belief system of Man God's and is nothing more than part of the Athenian creed foster by pagan ideologies. Pure Hersey.peace to you and yours……………gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2008,06:31)Hi Is 1.18, We agree that Yahshua's origins differed from ours. Did that difference preclude him from being an ordinary man?If it did and he was some sort of superman can we still follow him? Acts 222Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and…[Read more]

942767…… you have it right, God the Father is the Father of our lord and brother Jesus and also our Father if His spirit is in Us, there is no difference Between Jesus and Us, we are all one Family the Family of God the Father. ” wherefore He(Jesus) is not ashamed to call them brethren “.”as He is so are we”, “heirs and joint heirs”, with…[Read more]