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    WJ……Your statement about the mediator having be no less the the one who sent him is pure garbage. Jesus Plainly said the Father was greater then Him. Jesus did not know things the Father did and even said so. Jesus also said He could do nothing on His own, Does that Fit the Father, doesn't it say “For God does (ALL) things after the council of…[Read more]

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    Mandy……Jesus said when you see the (son of Man) coming in the clouds of Heaven. So he may still be considered as one of us Humans. But He certainly has the (Davine Nature) which all who have the Spirit of God in them Have.peace to you and yours………………gene

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    Mandy and Adam…………you both have it right, don't let these deceived trinitarians confuse you with all their twisting of scriptures, I am not really weired though because the Spirit guiding you is greater then their distorted theologies. And you both do have the spirit or you could not come out of all the confusion cause by the false…[Read more]

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    gollmudi….your example of one foot in two boats is right and a good example of those who say they don't believe in Jesus as a GOD himself but preach Jesus created everything. They stand between two persuasions which in truth causes confusion. Adam , good point…….peace to you brother……………gene

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    Tim……> I agree before Abraham Jesus was planned to come into being and the plan became reality when he was born through Mary. A son of man, another Adam, a unique born man. He was (foreordained) but was (manifested) in our time, according to Peter.peace……gene

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    DG…….. if we realize that law (forced compliance ) can never make a person right inside then we know why Paul said a man can never be( justified) before God by works of Law. But a man can be Justified by God writing His laws on the heart of some one by His spirit. Why because he or she has a new nature God has taken the hardness of them out…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2008,12:50)Hi GB, So the apostles were fools in Acts as they obeyed a more straightforward understanding?Jesus and his disciples baptised in water.No the apostles were not fools as you insinuate i am saying, but they were immature Christians at first and as time went on they changed there view as in the case of Paul as…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Nick……….What was Paul saying when He said there only one baptism, which one is it then, baptism with water, or baptism with the Spirit.You can be baptized with water and only get wet, but if you are baptized with holy Spirit you will change. It's like circumcision of the flesh, you just get bloody but if you experience circumcision of the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    to All………John said i indeed baptize in water, But he who comes after me will baptize You with Spirit and Fire.Ill paraphrase it …….John said i indeed baptize (emerge) in water, (BUT) He (Jesus) comes after me will baptize (emerge) you in Spirit and Fire (intense Judgments). Knowing this the fiery trial which has tried you as if some…[Read more]

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    If we can see that everything is a product of cause and effect, things really start to line up whit regards to us and God the Father. If we say all the evil that ever could exist (Existed) and all the good that ever could exist (Existed) Before there ever was a world or man on it. If we realize that the understanding of these two opposites is what…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    not3in1…….Good to see you back, hope you and your family are all doing well.Love and peace to you and yours………..gene

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    Nick……..you got that right, there is no such thing as (FREE WILL) everything is the product of cause and effect. Including our conversion and forgiveness and even our repentance is all caused by ONE GOD (The Father.) Who is in control of all things that exists in heaven and in earth. peace to you and yours………….gene

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    And peace to you Adam………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Dasgooey…….welcome to the Heaven net site. We have a lot of serious discussions here and we go in depth on many issues of God's word. I have seen a few things that i would disagree with on what you said. However welcome and may your experience here be both encouraging and enlightening. It's good to have you here.Peace to you and…[Read more]

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    Adam……….once we understand that every persons actions is a matter of cause and effect, it becomes easy to forgive them, because you understand they are only doing what was installed in them through their lives. We are all held captive by our thoughts and we act them out and the greater the influence of good or evil is in a person that is…[Read more]

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    To All……..yhwh simply means (HE EXISTS) and if you Add Eloyhim (POWERS) or as we say LORD GOD, it means, (HE EXISTS WITH POWERS) This is the Most High God, and the (ONLY ONE TRUE GOD) and (DEITY), Through which all things EXIST, and receive their EXISTENCE, both in heaven and in earth. One God and there is one mediator between Him and us, the…[Read more]

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    gollamudi………> in some ways people are like cement the older they get the more they get set in their ways, I have heard where some older people would say I know your right, but i am not going to believe anyway. But if Gods spirit is there it will guide them into truth and if not they will stay the way they are, and that applies to all of us.…[Read more]

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    gollamudi…….we all may have some differences, but overall were pretty much in agreement and remember the old saying iron sharpen iron. Non of us have it all, we are growing in grace and knowledge, and will continue until we all come to the full measure of Christ.peace to you and yours Adam………………..gene

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    gsilva72…….If you understood that the word GOD does not imply Deity and that Jesus said the Father was the (ONLY) TRUE GOD, you wouldn't have a problem with what were saying would you. Just believe what Jesus Himself said and everything will fall into place.peace ……gene

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    t8……..Trinitarians are polytheists though they try to deny it by saying there all one when Scriptures plainly show Jesus is not one and the same origin, being or essences of God the Father either.There teachings are pure garbage, and has caused so much pain and confusion. IMO……..gene

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