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    Nick ………..i have no argument with Peter because i agree with His assessment of Baptism it's you who is not seeing what Peter is talking about.IMO………..gene

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    Nick…..again you danced around the question, I ask you How is a word made Flesh. i UNDERSTAND HOW A WORD CAN COME TO EXIST IN FLESH , BUT THATS NOT THE QUESTION, Fact is you can't answer the question because it's impossible for a Spirit (WORD) to be flesh, right, it can only come to be (IN) flesh. Not be Flesh.That doesn't take a brain…[Read more]

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    Nick, your problem is you not seeing which baptism Peter was talking about. Water only removes dirt from the flesh doesn't change you inside. Peter is referencing the Baptism of Christ which is the same one John was talking about, the Baptism of Spirit and Fire that Jesus was to going to give us.Water Baptism saves no body, being baptized by the…[Read more]

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    Nick…..well if you understand it explain it then. The difference between us is I do understand what it means and you don't. Do you, or you could explain it right. Quit dancing around and give us your explanation.waiting………………gene

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    Tim……thou noest not what i havest against it.:) :) :D …….gene

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    Mandy and Adam………….It's good to see your salt, remember what our brother said “have salt in yourselves, and if salt looses it's savor it is good for nothing but to be cast out and trampled under by the foot of man. Therefore Have salt in yourselves and have peace.”love and peace to you both…………………..genePS…..Adam I wrote you…[Read more]

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    Nick……….now there's a miracle a word (became) Flesh, tell us how that works. I thought a word was Spirit not Flesh and blood. Please explain. I can understand how a word can exist in a flesh body as a thought, but become flesh, impossible. Maybe if we straight this out a lot of things might fall into place, about this word business, please…[Read more]

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    Nick………So why didn't all those who were baptized with the baptism of John believe him then and follow Jesus, the baptism of John never made (ONE) righteous person. But the baptism of Christ did I wonder why. Please explain that to me .If you will look up the origins of water baptism you will find it came from ritualistic cleansing required…[Read more]

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    Adam……….It's like this there is them who understand and them who don't, if the vail remains over their mind no one can remove it only God himself can. That why Jesus said no man (CAN COME) unto me except the Father drag Him. That how i know those who Have the truth in them they just naturally understand the Logic involved, and those who…[Read more]

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    Nick…………Jesus was born under the law and the law required people to be ceremonially cleansed before they could go into the temple. Is was a common practice of all who were under the law to do. But if you understand Peter later said that the washing of filth from the flesh was not what was important but Spiritual washing was. The putting…[Read more]

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    Tim……….true statement brother. peace to you and yours………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    To All……….remember the word Baptize means to emerge in, but as Peter later said in His ministry, that baptism of removal of the filth of the flesh or plain physical baptism was not the what count, but the Baptism that cleanses us from sin does, which is being emerged in Spirit.There are physical shadows of spiritual things but the spiritual…[Read more]

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    gollamudi……….you find no straight answer if they cant really explain it they simple pull out the mystery card. What you said earlier was right they stand with their feet in two different boats and they will only fall between them. It never stops to amaze me how simple it is to understand and how few can see it. But it is inspiring when i…[Read more]

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    T8……you have a big problem, It doesn't say He (existed) past tense . You have changed the text, it says (EXISTING) Present tense, big difference. You are referring a past existence, but text refers a present or at the time of his ministry on earth. Your trying to make the text imply before he was born and it doesn't imply that.Why do you and…[Read more]

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    Nick……….As i said before the apostles were still babes when the church began , but Peter plainly grow in spiritual understanding and got to a point where He said that the baptism of washing of the filth of the flesh did not remove sin, but the baptism of the Spirit does remove sin and cleans us inside. You can view things two ways, Spiritual…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Nick……….Peter is plainly showing us that water Baptism which was considered washing away the filth of the flesh does not really cleans us but the Baptism of Christ does cleans us not just outwardly , but inwardly. A baptism not of water but of Spirit.IMO………….gene

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    Nick……now i”ll put what you said in my words, to have the mind of (the anointing) or (Spirit) we must be reborn into (IT) and feed on the Spiritual food (IT) provides. This is the mind that was in Jesus the anointed, It's the same that must be in Us also. IMO…………gene

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    To all……But the spirit searches the deep things of God and I believe it will be logical to a Spiritual mind, but not to a Carnal mind, So the question is which mind is in you. The mind of Christ or the mind of the world. Carnal or Spiritual they are not the same.IMO………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 3 months ago

    Nick…….I really don't understand at all what your talking about.The baptism of water was a (physical Cleansing process) that started long before John the baptized and was a ritual required by the law of clean and unclean things.But what did John Say I indeed Baptize with Water (BUT) He who comes after Me (JESUS) will (BAPTIZE) with Spirit and…[Read more]

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    Nick……No but a mind of the Spirit of God is logical and (if) it be in you, it (WILL) cause the things of GOD to Be logical. Words without logic are pure confusion because the Spirit searches the deep things of God and makes them logical to those who have the Spirit. Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and a false Sheppard they will not follow.…[Read more]

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