Mandy….. we all came from God everyone , even the people Jesus said you are from you father the devil, they came from God also, what Jesus was referencing was the minds they were carnal minded, to be carnal minded is death, but true Christians are born from above because God's seed abides in them, they are in that sense born from above they are…[Read more]

WJ…..only you could twist it that way, but for you I will try to explaine it in a more simple and clear understanding. IN the beginning was the word (referring to an attribute of God the Father,,the word was with God and (WAS GOD). In others words what God was His word Was Just like you and me are. WE are what our words are. Every man shall be…[Read more]

Not3in1……Both Adams were from God There both called sons of God. the reference made by the second Adam was heavenly was to show God was indwelling Jesus and the First Adam Had a Carnal mind and the Second Adam was given a spiritual Mind BY he Holy Spirit that was given Him, so he was considered Heavenly. That is the only difference one was…[Read more]

WJ……….when did i ever say that, Have you now started to LIE about people to try to put them down “O” i forgot you always did do that. First you LIE about the word (WORD) not meaning (word) and changing it to mean Jesus and now you LIE about what i think. I see your accusations are in line with the god you serve. He was a LIER in the…[Read more]

DK….. 1Peter is truly talking to people God is involved in, which proves my point.But to assume all those who came and were baptized received God's spirit and were truly chosen is mistake, because many are called but (FEW) chosen. A lot of people who went along with the early church were not even called of God they just joined the movement so to…[Read more]

to all…….I contend that there is not such thing as (FREE WILL) all choices are the product of cause and effect. A man is caused to be saved by (ONE) TRUE GOD, who effects our minds in such a way it causes us to go to Jesus Christ. Jesus said “NO man (CAN) come to me (UNLESS) the Father (DRAG) him.” There are many who will come to Jesus though…[Read more]

DK…….How are they chosen by my definition, please explain.please explain, and please address the scriptures i gave you.

Gollmaudi….. You as well as i know Jesus was a true exact copy of the first Adam, thats why he is referenced as a (SECOND) ADAM . there was no difference between Him and the first Adam or Paul couldn't have used that example< he would have been lying, to say he was when in reality he wasn't'.Paul know fully well Jesus was a Purely Human being…[Read more]

DK……i disagree it doesn't show what God (want) to Do it shows what God can and does do. Where does it say Alexander and Hymanaeaus were ever really converted, May people then and today think they are, but that doesn't mean they are.1Tim1:18..> having faith and a good conscience, which some having (rejected) does it say why they rejected these…[Read more]

gollmaudi………those who dishonor Jesus by saying He was not (TRULY) the second Adam not dishonor Him but Dishonor Paul, who chose to compare Jesus as a second Adam. But continue to go with the scriptures specifically say and you won't get caught up in these preexistences and Trinitarian log jams. Remember if it not there don't try to make it…[Read more]

DK…..I gave you clear scriptures that show God, causes our change from start to finish. If you want to persist in what your trying to get across you need to address these scriptures.I am not saying once call you cant turn away, many are called but (FEW) chosen , When a person is chosen by God He will not turn away. The call of God goes out to…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ June 05 2008,19:47)Hi Adam, how you doing?Here is some info for you and any other fellow Bereans,concerning the phrase”The word was with God“Look at the first few sections of these two articles for the info.Hope they help …http://www.focusonthekingdom.org/13.html#5http://focusonthekingdom.org/articles/word.htmPastor…[Read more]

DK……if you get time go to where Moses was complaining about having to baby sit the Israelites and said it was just to much for him and read what God did to help Moses out with the seventy Elders How putting the Spirit that was on Moses on them and read what happened, and what Moses said to the one who was complaining about Adad and Medad…[Read more]

DK…….lets take the part of where you quote where Moses said to the childern of Israel ” I call heaven and earth to witness against you today< I have put life and death before you, the blessings and the curse; therefore choose life, that you as well as your desendents may live, by loving the lord your God, by heeding his injunctions and holding…[Read more]

Mandy……..I agree with you i have been heavy handed lately, but some times i get tried of go no where stupid, statements, just for the sake of arguing. Arguments that no matter what a person says they come up with a ridiculous statement, that misses the whole point of what your saying. Jesus said we are to have salt in ourselves and if salt…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 05 2008,14:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 05 2008,12:02)seekingtruth……..The choices you make were acquired before and were all ready in you, you simply react from the most persuasive one that all.Acquired before what?DK……> acquired before you made the choice. Every thing you choose is caused by whats in you…[Read more]

Nick ……what do you mean we are born wrongly programed. where is scripture for that statement. Your wrong again, we are born neutral and we come into a world infected with evil and it infects us. A baby is not a sinner he or she becomes one, how by acquiring evil through exposure . In John we read ” for all thats in the world , the lust of the…[Read more]

Nick………wrong again, if you don't have understanding you have no right to even quote the scriptures then to try to prove a point. That seems to be the case with you. You just quote a portion of scripture and don't even understand what you quoting do you. Then you imply all kinds of thing the person isn't even saying, that seams to be your…[Read more]

Nick…………I haven't a clue what your talking about. Have you lost you thoughts.

Nick………. If your thoughts and plan aren't with you then pray tell where are they then?And you are right they will die with and when your are resurrected they will be there too. And you will be judged by them also because thats what you are, and you will be judged by what you are. Your thought produce your words and you will give account of…[Read more]