Nick….I thought Jesus said it hasn't be given to them to understand the things of the kingdom but unto (you) (the Chosen Disciples) it has been given. So if it hadn't been given to them then how could they understand?Please give me your understanding of the word grace.

WJ…..”O” I think i do, your (WORDS) speak for you and come forth from your heart and when you miss quote someone and falsely imply what they mean it speaks volumes of your integrity and heart. imo………..gene

Quote (942767 @ June 07 2008,14:44)Hi Gene:You say:Quote Thats one of the reasons why i believe everyone will eventually be saved and it has nothing to do with Mans so called (FREE WILL) but only Gods Will.If everybody will eventually be saved what about the following scripture:Quote Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these…[Read more]

gsilva72……when did gollmaudi ever say the name of the Father is Jesus. You are inferring He thinks Jesus is the Father, I never heard him say that.We shouldn't put words in other peoples mouth. A i have seen being done a lot here lately. IMO……gene

Isa 1:18……….this is no about Calvinism at all, If Calvin believed there was No Such thing as (FREE WILL) fine, i could care less. I Didn't get what i know about FREE WILL from him or his teachings at all. If you disagree and believe in free will then please post you beliefs, why try to label some one. Whats your point.peace………..gene:)

942767…….Please explain this then Spoken by Jesus……..NO MAN (CAN) come to me (EXCEPT) the Father (DRAG) Him. How does so called (FREE WILL) fit here. No one who believes in Free Will seem to be able to explain this (Why)?.And this only One of Many scriptures i can show that disproves (FREE WILL) ideology's But lets Just start Here…[Read more]

Adam ……Your right I believe all here know I don't believe God the Father is Flesh, as was implied i said. In fact it's them that believe the word (became) Flesh not me. I believe the word came to be in the Flesh man Jesus. And that was how God the Father was in Jesus. peace to you, Adam………………….gene

WJ…..What i said was as you can see, the word (WORD) (refers) to God the Father and it is obviously, what i meant. And then you took that a add the whole thing about God the Father being Flesh which i did not say those were all you words not mine, you twisted and misrepresented my views, then after all these false statements you end with (Gene…[Read more]

WJ…..What i said was as you can see, the word (WORD) (REFERS) to God the Father and it is obvious, what i meant. And then you took that a add the whole thing about God the Father being Flesh which i did not say those were all you words not mine, then after all these false statements you end with (Gene version) which is a pure LIE when did I…[Read more]

942757….> what you posted has nothing to do with the subject of Free Will, because all those things can be a matter of God causeing you to believe them sure whosoever bleives in Him should not parish, but where does (Free Will) come in < because Jesus said no man (CAN) come unto me, except the Father (DRAG) him. You see none of those things you…[Read more]

Gollmaudi……….It still amazes me how easily you understand that and so many other can't, they just don't see how absolute (Sovereign) the Father is. Once a person has that light in them so many things fall together in the scriptures. Every time i see you respond with this understanding God has given you it truly lifts my Spirit, and i rejoice…[Read more]

to all…….this should summit up Paul said , ” for (every) mans work will be tried by fire, and if he have built with gold, silver, precious stones, he sahll recieve a reward, but it he has build with straw, hay, or stubble, it shall be burned up, (BUT) HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED, (YET) as by FIRE. That should settle the idea of universal…[Read more]

Dk….. I have written a lot on so called (FREE WILL) there is no such thing as free will, thats an oxymoron because all things are the result of cause and effect. This conforms to all science and Psychological evidence. Nothing takes place with out a cause and that includes our salvation.. We do not go to Jesus on our own, Jesus said no man can…[Read more]

chosenone ……….excellent post i do agree with what you said here.God the Father is (SOVEREIGN) over all His creation, rather they like it or not. For God does all things after the council of His (OWN) WILL.This is what man Hates, they want to think that they are the (CAPTAIN) of their own ship. Pure foolishness. Why do they think that way?,…[Read more]

Adam Pastor……….good point Paul referencing Jesus as a second Adam shows he was not the first either. So it excludes preexistence. Good Point.Very good point…………….gene

Mandy……Because of you last post i need to tell you some more, when i was at the height of my business I had with the help of God developed a very large contracting operation, One day Irvin came to me and ask for a Job, he knew nothing about about electrical, and i was so glad to see him and immediately put him to work, He was the only black…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 06 2008,11:15)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2008,10:50)I guess Obama will have to learn fast! I believe he will take the Presidency.Mandy I dont.The Clinton followers dont like this guy. McCain is a moderate with lots of experience and I think he will win their vote.I have already talked to a lot of dems who wouldnt vote…[Read more]

DK……to be honest about racial preferences, when I had a large electrical operation years ago, I thought about what your saying, if I had a black man and a Mexican, and a white man, with the exact same abilities applying for a job, which one would i have chosen , the fact is i would have chosen the white man, so i can see what your talking…[Read more]

Nick……….they sure were, did Jesus say Fathers they were yours and through divest them to me, and again i am not of this word neither are they of this world.when did i say they were carnal in their works. Did they do some carnal things Yes scripture bares that out . But Paul said if we sow to the flesh we will reap death but if we sow to the…[Read more]

WJ…….why did you miss quote me then and pull out a meaning i did not say and did not rewrite it just like i did , it obvious what you were doing was deliberate and intensional so don't play stupid with me. If you want to quote someone then use the words they use and write them as they did, which you did not do . I said the word was a…[Read more]