Nick….So now you saying what Adam quotes from the bible and calling it, His opinions and even if it was, its every bit as valuable as your opinions are.Should Your OPIOIONs be enough for US then?

Nick……you need to apply your words to yourself, it would be more appropriate,you seem to be the one misrepresenting the bible and the apostles and putting word in people's mouths, not me. I really think you should take your own advice.

Gollamudi……I believe what God has blinded just wont get it, but as you say there are people who God brings to this site and who knows what can happen.bless you brother………..gene

Gollamudi…….they can understand them, it's just not been given, please don't let them discourage you brother, but you or I will never convenience them, it's either there or not there. Its just like a cat chasing it's tail it goes round and round and wines up going where. “Unless the Lord shall build the House the weary Builders toil in vain”.…[Read more]

David…..I am sure if you and Dk were one of the people who weren't getting what Jesus was saying you would respond the same way to Jesus when He told His disciples, the others hear and see but did not get it either. The truth has a ring to it and if you have the spirit of truth you recognize it, but if you don't you simply don't get it.and all…[Read more]

Nick…….who said Jesus wasn't , there you go imputing things i did not say again and trying to make a big show out of it, can't you see the evil in that, and you got the nerve to say I put words in your mouth. like Adam said stay on subject if you can.gene

Gollamudi……….that not the way Nick operates, as soon as you prove something, rather then admitting the truth you trying to show He diverts off to anther useless and endless subject , so in effect nothing is ever resolved it seem in debating Him.but i am glad there are some who can understand truth of the scriptures and who conceder the whole…[Read more]

Nick….Show me what i said against baptism I have said i am (NOT) against water Baptism, But water baptism is not what saves any body it the baptism of the Spirit and Fire that is what saves people. The disciples were not changed until they received the Baptism of the Spirit and Fire that Jesus promised would come, if you can't handle that to to…[Read more]

Nick …..I am not talking about a stumbling stone Jesus was indeed that, I am talking about a giant rock like a mountain. A giant powerfull ROCK. I can list about 24 scripture that show that the Rock is God himself if you like i can list them it might take a couple of pages though. I would you rather just go to E-sword if you have it and look it…[Read more]

nick..> what scripture about it are you talking about. If you want i can list i think about 15 or 20 scriptures about who the Rock really is.

Nick………there you go again saying something i never said or implied either.Your amazing and you say i put words in peoples mouths. Give me a break.Show me where i rejected any scripture and that includes Act also. I have given you 12 scriptures on what Jesus said concerning the words He Spoke and you still don't accept them for what they say,…[Read more]

Nick…..Just say it EXACTLY like it says. and did all drink the same Spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that Followed them: and that Rock was the anointing or (Christos). This rock is God the Father, heres another proof that God the Father is the Rock there are others also, But Lets take where Jesu said to Peter who do you say…[Read more]

Nick…….I have no problem with water baptisms at all I was water baptized twice in my life, So were the disciples but they were still unconverted or Jesus would not have said to them what he did. And to think the disciples did grow in grace and knowledge and mature as they went along is not putting them down.gene

Nick…I have just shown you where Jesus was not speaking (HIS) WORDS but the Fathers words, and I said i do believe He was a spokesman of those words that the Father gave Him. I believe nothing more ar nothing less.Where do you see Jesus mentioned as the Rock. lets deal with that statement now.gene

Nick…….when did i ever say that. If your thinking i saying Jesus was the words he was speaking the answer is no he was not the words he was speakings, i just gave you and WJ, 12 Scriptures that should have solved what i think. gene

Nick….good advice, take it. And you might be surprised what you will see and learn.peace brother……………..gene

Nick……..Yes He did, but to say He himself is the word make Him the origin of them and as you can see thats not the case. I have never said Jesus was not speaking GOd words to Us and He certainly is a spokesman of GOD's words to us. I believe that with all my heart, But as i said speaking some ones word doesn't make you him or His word. But is…[Read more]

Nick…….go to the( is Jesus not God) thread and read the 12 scriptures and then see what you think.gene

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 13 2008,04:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 13 2008,04:40)WJ….. lets Just examin one Scripture and you give me the answer with out going to anything else, Just once ok…. What did Jesus mean when He very planily said in several places that the (WORDS) He Spoke were (NOT) HIS WORDS> Just stay with this first before…[Read more]

Nick…….you are right if He were God himself He would not be (IMAGING) anything would He, The question Here is what is the definition of IMAGE. According to my understanding it means to mirror or reflect, but a IMAGE while It can Be the exact reflection of some thing it is (NEVER) the something it IMAGES or reflects. Stand in front of a mirror…[Read more]