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    Nick…..I will let you accuse your self then, Did you quote me right or did you say i said something i did not say , if some one did that to you would you say they were lying about what you said? And i think your the one accusing people of saying things they did not say not me. Thats a problem you have not me. If i say some one said something i…[Read more]

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    DK……would that make Peter their leader, Jesus called Him Satan. But if you look it up the word Satan means Advisory. An advisory is anyone who resists you. God himself can be an advisory at times. He said go tell them i am against them. I believe more and more Good is an advisory of evil and evil is an advisory of Good. And when it say we…[Read more]

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    to all…..1 cor15:27…> for He (God) hath put all things under his feet, (BUT) when He (GOD) saith all things; are put under him, it is MANIFEST that He (GOD) is Excepted, which did put all things under him. The Father is in complete control of everything He is SOVEREIGN. And the ONLY TRUE GOD, as Jesus said. peace……gene

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    Nick…Where did i ever say Miracles (ALONE) were equated with salvation as you said i said, What you posted back that i said in no way says that, you are a perverter of the truth, Anyone who misquotes some one on this form is no more than a Lier. And you have done this more then once to me and others also. If your going to say someone said…[Read more]

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    Nick…..when did i ever equate or say Miracles (ALONE) with proof of Salvation. Please show me where i said that. And if you can't please stop Lying, About what i say, after all you are a monitor and should at least trying to tell the truth.

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    DK….It's not about me it's about truth,Stop and think a monent if You say something i agree with i would say amen brother, and i as well as Adam and others have said this to each other all the time, the Spirit does have a ring to it and to me some seem to have it more than others. I did not teach Adam what He knows the Spirit of God did not me,…[Read more]

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    Mandy….here is something to think about.1Sam 15:22…> and Samuel said, Has the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifice, as in obeying the voice of the Lord, To obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams.Pro 21:3 ..> to do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.There is another scripture…[Read more]

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    Nick……..Paul and all the apostles were baptized with Holy Spirit that's why they could do the things they did. It had nothing to do with water baptism . Every thing you mentioned was the Spirit at work in them, not water baptism at work in them. I agree with Paul there is (ONE BAPTISM) That counts and thats Baptism of the SPIRIT< i will trust…[Read more]

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    Gollamudi….Jesus said the (words) i am telling you are (Spirit and Life) he also said GOD is SPIRIT, So the Word was God as stated in John 1:1. Jesus was manifested and God was in Him, So then The Word was also because the Word who is (GOD) was in Him, but He plainly said in 10 or 12 different places the words were (NOT) HIS. He spoke (GOD”S…[Read more]

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    Nick…..can you say yes the scripture you posted does say (ONE BAPTISM) can you say that and as you say in the mouth of two or three witness let every word be established then. That scripture you never acknowledged even through it was posted by me two or three time and by others also. And you never acknowledged all the other scriptures we gave…[Read more]

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    Irene…… I was baptized in the baptist church when i was 21 years old, I knew my life was sinful and that i needed help From God to change my life, i knew i needed the Holy Spirit to help me, and being convicted of my sins i went in front of the church and confessed i was a sinner and wanted to be baptized, they had this baptism pool on stage…[Read more]

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    Irene…..Yes i am getting that way to, my age is starting to catch up with me. The older i get the more i realize that all the evil things we have all experienced in our lives were necessary or God would not have put us through it all. Because He could have stopped it any time he wanted but i think it's all needful and in the long run we will all…[Read more]

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    Nick….now your saying i am saying the apostles were not lead by the Spirit. Please show me where i said that. Again your starting to lie.whats with you Just drop it. gene

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    Nick….> are you blind, what do you mean where is it written, I gave you the Scripture can't you read.Here it is again incase your pride has completely blinded you.Eph 4:5…> Lets start in verse 4…> there is one body and one SPIRIT, Just as you were called in ONE hope of your calling; 5.>ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM.there you have it…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ June 19 2008,01:26)Quote (chosenone @ June 18 2008,16:13)Quote (gollamudi @ June 18 2008,13:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2008,11:48)chosenone……….Amen brother, You can get wet all you want to it wont save you< It's the baptism of the Spirit And Fire that save you Period, nothing more or nothing less. Trust me all those…[Read more]

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    Nick…… well i guess Paul (grew in understanding) after the book of Act'sEph 4:5….> ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, (ONE BAPTISM). Now do you think this one baptism was water baptism or Baptism of (SPIRIT AND FIRE) Which one in scripture produced the works of the Spirit. As i said before there is nothing wrong with water baptism as you are trying to…[Read more]

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    Gollamudi…… Thanks for the spelling tip brother, as you and others have noticed my spelling is not the best. in fact its not good at all. What i want to bring out is who has a description what a (SPIRIT) is. I will tell you what I think it is. Jesus said the (words) He spoke were Spirit and Life. Somaybe life with intellect is Spirit no Matter…[Read more]

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    Nick……..and what you are saying is Just your opinions also and you could be wrong also. You like people to think your opinions are more actuate but in fact there not, according, to not just me but lots of other also. Frankly is i were running this site you would be the last person i would put as a monitor. You create more friction then anyone…[Read more]

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    DK……I heard this sermon where the person giving it said we are the Heavens where the Kingdom resides. He said that each of us is considered a heaven and God is the King of the Heavens plural. I don't necessarily agree with that but it does have some merit.peace to you….gene

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    To All….i think clean and unclean Spirits is more descriptive . Jesus said when a unclean spirit leaves a man His house becomes clean and the Spirit is said to go out into (arid) places looking for rest, so evidently they need water or moister of some kind, which kind of fits where Jesus command the legion of them to come out of the possessed…[Read more]

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