Nick….how does that got anything to do with what were talking about? gene

DK….good is good, evil is evil, it doesn't matter how you want to frame it, if you (moral) evil so what it still evil isn't it. If i say (Morally) good its still good, right?peace …..gene

Relegion want you to think so how Adam had a (FREE WILL) and there Choice was Just their doing and nothing else. This is flawed in two respects two It makes God not in control of everything and there by removes His (SOVEREIGNTY) in all things, once you understand God is and was in control of everything that happened then and now you will begin to…[Read more]

DK….I meant (CANT) not can. I should preview first, sorry.

DK……everything originates with God, there is nothing that exists without Him, He takes full responsibility for all Good and evil. Or how could He forgive it then. You are limiting God and giving Him only half the credit He has. If you understood that Evil is as necessary as Good is in the balance of Life you would see where we are coming from.…[Read more]

wj….Interesting, you say, but for the believer there is but (ONE) GOD and yet you break up this (ONE) GOD unto (three) Gods. Isn't that a contradiction of some kind.Every thing you quote goes against your belief in three Gods, Even trough you try to say there one in the same your trinitarian teachings present them as (GOD THE FATHER) (GOD THE…[Read more]

Gollamudi…..look it up the word (form) it means nature. Jesus had God's nature in Him. but did not try to steal it from God, When God did miracles through Him he could have said He was the one doing it, and stoled the glory for it, but he did not do that, he gave God all the Glory. There is a scripture where Jesus said all that every came before…[Read more]

DK…….you have a good teachable attitude and I hope God will guide you to better understand truth. we all here are Just expressing our thoughts on things and you know the old saying Iron sharpens Iron, may well apply here. God is able to guide all of us to better understandings. love and peace to you and yours……….gene

Nick…..i have no idea what you are talking about. And i think no one else does either. Look lets just drop this whole thing OK. Lets just agree to disagree. You have your way of looking at it i have mine. So lets be friends and let it go.gene

Nick….it wouldn't be wise if you don't have the spirit of truth, but if you do then it is wise to recognize the sound of the sheep of God.The sheep know the sound of the Sheppard they have the ring of truth, you can recognize it if you have it in you. If a person doesn't have the Spirit of truth in them then they would consider it unwise.…[Read more]

Dk…..> i supplied you with scripture showing God created Good and Evil, it was in answer to your question, have you seen it yet, it was before Mandy moved us there. If you haven't i can retype it here.peace ………..gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2008,12:54)Hi GB, You see the foundation prescribed by God is Heb 6 is different to yours. It includes BAPTISMS.1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2Of the doctrine of…[Read more]

Nick……… again you accusing others, and saying others are the accusers . No NICK, your the one still on milk and haven't moved on to meat yet. IMO……..gene

Dk…..All evil is evil and all good is good rather you call it moral or not it's still good and evil.God created both, without one you could never know the other, evil explains what good is and good explains what evil is the understanding of these is what gives wisdom. Eve wasn't as dumb as people think, she Knew that experiencing them would…[Read more]

DK…..i meant, uses evil for his purposes.

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 20 2008,13:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 20 2008,12:25)DK….scripture plainly show that God sacrificed His son for the Sins of the world. Jesus was God's sacrificial lamb. Lets stop there for a moment and ask why did God do that He never Sinned Did He, so why did He have to sacrifice anything. What did God Show by…[Read more]

Chosenone………Amen brother.peace to you and yours…………gene

DK….scripture plainly show that God sacrificed His son for the Sins of the world. Jesus was God's sacrificial lamb. Lets stop there for a moment and ask why did God do that He never Sinned Did He, so why did He have to sacrifice anything. What did God Show by this then, if you understand that GOD created both good and evil and that He was the…[Read more]

To all…go over and check it out for yourselves. He has audio downloads also they really are good in my opinion. you can type in, Ray's-Studies Audio Downloads , and listen to them, lots of subjects discussed. I don't necessarily agree with everything but there is a lot i do agree with, Check it out.

Nick……Mr Smith is the one who brought down the world wide organization by exposing what the leaders were doing. His teaching are not at all like the wwcg 's. Your lack of knowledge about Him personally is unwarranted. You seem to enjoy casting dispersions on people, you personally know nothing about.IMO…..gene