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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Salvation by faith alone in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
DK…..Amen Brother. You got it and that Faith is a gift from God.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….. I showed where it is written with all kinds of scriptures,you just cant see it those who have eyes to see will see, it evident to me you don't, so my dialog with you on this subject is over.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….i just showed you, you just don't get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it's is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….i just showed you, you just don't get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it's is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
DK…..In non of the 20 scriptures you gave is the words free Will or free anything said or implied. You need to go and find the definition of FREE WILL and read up on it and you will see what i mean.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
DK….when did ever say we don't have choice please show me where is said that, the subject matter is the word (FREE WILL) i was talking about, we all make choices thousands of them every day, i have no problem with choices. It's (how the choices are derived at) Is it (free Will) something no where mentioned in the bible or Caused choices, I say…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…Being buried with Jesus is what the Spirit does it's what put our wills to death, God pours His Spirit on Us like He did the apostles and then they became converted. The Baptism of Jesus is with Spirit and Fire, as John plainly said. You need to address questions put to you , instead of ignoring them .
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..Jesus has no separate will any more, like we have to ultimately do to become like Jesus. The only (WILL) functioning in Jesus is the Fathers WILL> Thats what it means when it says thy kingdom come (THY WILL) be done. Only one WILL, be done in Gods Kingdom. That God may be ALL and IN ALL.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..Jesus has no separate will any more, like we have to ultimately do to become like Jesus. The only (WILL) functioning in Jesus is the Fathers WILL> Thats what it means when it says thy kingdom come (THY WILL) be done. Only one WILL, be done in Gods Kingdom. That God may be ALL and IN ALL.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…Isa 53:10 and verse 12….> says Because he poured out his (SOUL) not Just His Flesh His sacrifice went beyond the flesh. The Key is Soul because that includes His (WILL).peace brother……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…Isa 53:10 and verse 12….> says Because he poured out his (SOUL) not Just His Flesh His sacrifice went beyond the flesh. The Key is Soul because that includes His (WILL).peace brother……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….wrong Jesus' Death was not when He physically died on the cross, He died before that by putting His will to death which He did all during his life the cross was Just the climax of what he was doing all along. You keep seeing things in a physical sense instead of a spiritual one. The flesh profits nothing but the spirit does. Jesus put His…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….wrong Jesus' Death was not when He physically died on the cross, He died before that by putting His will to death which He did all during his life the cross was Just the climax of what he was doing all along. You keep seeing things in a physical sense instead of a spiritual one. The flesh profits nothing but the spirit does. Jesus put His…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..>Being buried with Him in Baptism is performed by the Baptism of Spirit , that puts our wills to death as it did Jesus, Water baptism puts nothing to death it's is only symbolic of the true spiritual baptism given to us by God through Christ. Notice in your quote of verse 12…buried with him in baptism not plural so which baptism is it,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
DK……You have given the answer,,..> from the very beginning God had decided in keep with His Plan. Was it God who decided or a man's So-Called Free will that decided it. You need to look at all the scripture give to get proper understanding, not Just selected scriptures.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proof that universalism isn't true in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Chosenone …It's interesting who Nick can through out all His dispersions and produce nothing in defense of His positions. I believe like it's not God will any Parish and if God does All thing in accordance with His will then all will be saved. But what really bothers me is why would not everyone want that for everyone who every lived, That God…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic How is Jesus not God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….Evidently you don't read the bible much, i see a God who control all thing by the power of His might, I realize He is not your God, your own free will is your God. and the SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD is something you can't stand, however who are you that replies to God He will Do what ever He Choses with or with out You opinion or permission.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick……a lot. i Just explained it reinforces what scripture had already said. So you can condescend it all you want but it plainly back up scripture, why do you find that hard to believe, God gave man wisdom as has been proved time and time again and Psychology has helped many people over the years, If you don't believe this go read on who…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic How is Jesus not God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
DK…….this may come as a shock, but God made all choices for all of Us, it is not up to you or I to decide whats right or wrong God has already decided that, And as Shakespeare said ours is not reason why, ours is bit to do or die. What i think you are not taking into you thinking is that God does not ask us to please do right if we can of our…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Salvation by faith alone in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…….Reread Gal3:1-5 ….and think about it proves it all by faith that every thing is done. 2..> this only would i learn from you, reciev ye the Spirit by (Works) of law (the definit article (the) was added, or by hearing of Faith. Queston who gives Faith you or God, which enables you to recieve the Spirit, it was the faith given you.3…>…[Read more]
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