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    Carmel…..Having the essence of something does not make you that essence,  the Spirit of God,  which you use in a ‘mysterious” form as meaning the same as, it a “LIE”  the “essence”  never makes you that essence ,  the spirit of God  can be considered as an essence of God,  but that does not make anyone who has it a God,  not none of those who…[Read more]

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    Lu……Proclaimer is right scriptures clearly say there is “Only” one God,  and “one” mediator between God and men “THE MAN” Jesus  the Christ or anointed one. 

    You use the word “essence”  as MEANING  somekind of  “mysterious” , proof Jesus is A GOD.  While at the Sametime denying all the many scriptures that show that cannot be true.  Even de…[Read more]

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    To all……. Here is something that might help all,   Go to Youtube,   and watch the three part lecture given by the bible scholar professor, Bart Ehrman about when Jesus became a God.   He brings out a lot of history surrounding the concepts, as well as how that teaching entered the church.

    Peace and love to you all and yours. ……….gene

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    Carmel……At least Jodi and I don’t change  word meanings, except where STRONG shows  them as mistranlated, from the Greek to the English.

    While your praying for me, make sure you ask God, to start to reaveal the truth to you OK?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

     

     

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Puzzles in the forum Chatroom 5 years, 3 months ago

    Proclaimer. …..if your going to only touch one glass on top to get the same “order’ i.e.  “sequence” as the bottom, , then you empty the top left cup in the top fourth cup and place the empty cup on the left top. As LU SAID. YOU ONLY HAVE MOVED ONE CUP. BY DOING THAT.

    You can’t start with the top row and end up with “only”  the bottom row by m…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,  I reconize no GOD but One, but I also can see how to others , they can call other things  like idols of metal or stone or wood as well as  people their God, as many do  Jesus,  but I believe like Jesus said  , “there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD”,  and i also believe there is a human being who is called our lord a  (human ruler) that is…[Read more]

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    Berean…….there are two different commings one is the lord (human ruler), Jesus the anointed man, and the other is the comming of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. Which takes place at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s.  When Jesus offers up his kingdom to God the Father.

    Jesus never spoke of his return as burning up this whole…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..have you ever though that perhaps the word God is not any single person, but a DESCRIPTOR WORD?  a word the “only” describes a “Relationship” with anything?

    Like this, A GOD= CAN BE ANY THING,  WE PUT “OUR TRUST IN” , THINKING,  IT HAS “POWER”  IN AND OVER,  OUR LIVES? , just asking.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

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    Keras……Make sur you don’t get t h e return of Jesus Christ , mixed up with the return GOD THE FATHER. They are two completely different events, most everything people say about the return of Jesus is c actually the return of God the Father. Which takes place a thousand years after Jesus ‘ return.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Puzzles in the forum Chatroom 5 years, 3 months ago

    Proclaimer,  You take the top empty cup move it to the bottom left, then take the top three full cups move them to the bottom left then take the top empty cup move it to the bottom left. , now the “order” of the to is “matched.” to the bottom,  you have started with the top and ended up with the bottom row.

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    Danny Dabbs. ……what you have said is true,  ,  but we also share in that devine nature, just like Jesus does. But we as Jesus are not a God, no do we have the authority of God, no his power,  how does thinking Jesus is somehow above us in his devine nature make him above us?  Jesus is only above us in “authority”, given him by his father who…[Read more]

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    Miia…..I have a question for you, why did God command the Isrealites to eat the lamb,  on the night of the passover, and leave none of it, if he didn’t want us to eat meat?  All the way through the old Testement they were eating meat, of lambs, goats, cattle,  in all their feast days right.

    Look I do think limiting the intake of meat,  for veg…[Read more]

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    Carmel……The Father is Spirit,  or don’t you believe what Jesus clearly said.

    John 4:24…..“GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.”

    Rom 8:11….“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead “DWELL” “IN” “YOU” , he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also (the same way)…[Read more]

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    Berean…..the key is to understand what the word “Knew” actually means.   Adam “knew” Eve And She brought forth her first son ,  Cain.

    What soes that word “Knew” mean?    Was it “hi  I’m Adam, glad to meet you Eve, or was it to mean he have an eniminit relationship with her?

    To know good and evil is not saying to know “about” something,  it is…[Read more]

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    To all….. after nearly 2000 years of false teachings of Satan and his ministers, about who Jesus really is, the waters has been so clouded hardly anyone can know t h e real Jesus, because of all the deception that has “already” occurred in the “apostate” churches,  which are the synoguges of Satan , where his “LIES ABOUT JESUS” have been ta…[Read more]

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    Berean. ….I never said Jesus sinned.  AND I DO acknowledge and “REALIZE”  he is a “high preist”  of God the Father . But none of that makes him a “preexisting” being of anykind.  

    We need to believe exactly what scripture says,  “but unto us there is but “ONE” God and “one” mediator, between God and men, “THE MAN”, Jesus Christ. 

    But you go…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..I am not having trouble with that , because that’s simply not true, Jesus never existed a single day , before his birth on this earth, he came into his only existence, through the linage  given in scriptures, he did “preexist” , however in the “PLAN”  and “will” of God,  From the foundations of the earth, now that part is  tru…[Read more]

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    Berean…..First of all you must reach the age of acountability first  before a sin is accounted against you,   but I am sure God the Father was indeed guiding Jesus’ thoughts early on in his life, as well as his parents also.  Jesus it say grew in understanding and stature, he wasn’t born with it appears.

    But never the less it’s says he knew no…[Read more]

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    Carmel……before you go into these long non scriptural rambling of your, just  produce a single scripture or two,  that shows where I am wrong, you own word means nothing to me nor anyone else here. Rambling on just shows how really ignorant you are about scriptural truth.

    You said God could never indwell in anyone. Well scripture say that n…[Read more]

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    Yes Proclaimer, but don’t forget it returns back to the exact kind of  body that produced it.  No matter how many times it is repeated , a butterfly is changed into a worm, then changes  again into another butterfly.  God created them to have seed that reproduces it self again, over and over it will alway produce what it came from.  God will give…[Read more]

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