(42767….if man could change his self by his choices why does he need God to transform him then, Seeing he could do it himself. No where does scripture show God gave man a FREE WILL. He gave him a will but it is far from being FREE. If you could see we only chose from what is already been installed into our thinking and we simply select from the…[Read more]

942767…..this is where we disagree, I say God saves a person despite his self, and there is no such thing as (FREE WILL) free will is an illusion of man, all thing are a result of cause and effect, nothing a man choses is the result of Free will there is only one will that will be done and it will not be mans will at all. Man likes to think he…[Read more]

942767….your making an assumption that Paul is talking to people who will fall away , when in fact he is simply telling the difference between those who are truly converted and those who are not , the ones who are not will not continue in faith and will move away from the hope of the Gospel which they have heard. Many hear the gospel and because…[Read more]

Nick….let's don't get carried away with our self righteousness , I do agree with What God's Spirit shows me and it doesn't not disagree with Jesus or his true understood words. While i might disagree with your limited understanding, i certainly don't disagree with GOd's words that Jesus spoke to us. Peace………….gene

Nick….we found something we both agree on. thats progress, …..gene

mf………..truly stated . It's not so much the vine as what flowing through the vine , GOD's Spirit.peace to you and yours…………………..gene

Malcolm….the heart guides the mind they are inseparable , “the heart is deceitful above all things who can know it, I the lord search the Heart and try the mind. So a man thinks so he is, an man thoughts are guided by his heart and his mind thinks in accordance with his heart. they are inter connected inseparable, thats why a New Heart is…[Read more]

Malcolm … the carnal could never be will to surrender to God, “for the carnal mind is enmity with GOD, is not subject to the laws of GOD neither (CAN) be. Our surrendering to GOD is GOD caused, “for He (GOD) works in us to (BOTH) WILL and to do of HIS good Pleasure.” If God causes us to do His WILL then it (NOT US), doing it. Even the love you…[Read more]

Nick…i never said there was not water baptism, what i said is the there is only one baptism the saves a person and it is not water baptism, but baptism of the spirit, sure there were different baptisms bit only one that really counted and that was the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT and scripture has shown people recieve it even before they were…[Read more]

Nick…i never said there was not water baptism, what i said is the there is only one baptism the saves a person and it is not water baptism, but baptism of the spirit, sure there were different baptisms bit only one that really counted and that was the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT and scripture has shown people recieve it even before they were…[Read more]

Nick….If you are addressing the people of God why do you act as if they are Carnal minded then, You switch back and forth in you dialog with people because you seem to think that gives you position here. You call what anyone that disagree with you as human reason or human intellect, when in fact many of your posts are nothing but your reasons or…[Read more]

Nick….good advice you need to take it to yourself. I believe it would really help you brother.

Nick….then show us How (Baptism) not (BAPTISM'S) a singular word is by you turned into a plural word. Then show us where Paul said there is more then one Baptism that we must have also.. As i said you can't corner a snake in a brier patch. And while your at it please tell us why John told Jesus He had need to be baptized by him then. And my…[Read more]

Nick….then show us How (Baptism) not (BAPTISM'S) a singular word is by you turned into a plural word. Then show us where Paul said there is more then one Baptism that we must have also.. As i said you can't corner a snake in a brier patch. And while your at it please tell us why John told Jesus He had need to be baptized by him then. And my…[Read more]

Nick…I ask you where is that written , it is not written as you said it, I know Faith is a given from God and i do agree with Romans 4:9 concerning Abraham, His Faith was (RECKONED) to him as righteousness. But you must remember that faith was given him by GOD in the first place , it wasn't something He had or acquired on his own. God was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2008,14:17)GB,Man's reasoning led him to follow his wife who was following satan. Enough said.Nick….then lets all go and get a lobotomy and go around like a sombe then, and we wont have the reason problem any more. After all God created a stupid thing when he created a man's mind to reason with right?. Nick you have…[Read more]

Nick….there is an old saying you can not corner a snake in a brier patch. The one baptism Paul was talking about was the Baptism of the Holy Spirit trust me on this one. Water baptism never made anyone right with GOD, But the Baptism of Christ does, and it's the baptism of Spirit and Fire, as John plainly said and He know he needed that baptism…[Read more]

Nick….there is an old saying you can not corner a snake in a brier patch. The one baptism Paul was talking about was the Baptism of the Holy Spirit trust me on this one. Water baptism never made anyone right with GOD, But the Baptism of Christ does, and it's the baptism of Spirit and Fire, as John plainly said and He know he needed that baptism…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 30 2008,15:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 30 2008,12:04)942747…..Your infuses on Us doing our own changing , is wrong, WE ARE (CREATED) UNTO GOOD WORKS. We are (NOT) the CREATOR the does that, that is GOD the FATHER who (DOES) THAT. that is why He is the SAVIOR OF ALL, because HE ALONE is the ONLY ONE WHO CAN CAUSE US TO…[Read more]

Nick….where is that written or is that YOUR HUMAN LOGIC talking. peace ………..gene