WJ……You just showed how you TORK the Things said, I Said A Father can not be the son a very obvious understanding, is that I meant a Father can not be HIS (OWN SON)., But the way your mind works is to try to TORK what was plainly meant. I am sure everyone else here knew full well what i was referring too. Then you proceed to TORK Scripture try…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2008,08:02)GB,Scientists only accept as truth what they can prove to their own satisfaction. Thus their carnal minds are the ultimate judge of truth. We believe because it is written. We are not Newtonians You should not get muddled between testing and the lake of fire.Nick……..1 Th 5:21….> “Prove (ALL THINGS);…[Read more]

Nick…….Jesus said you shall all be salted with fire does that mean he will sprinkle literal Fire on us, or intense Judgment, and where it says He would baptise with spirit and (FIRE) is that also a literal fire or intense Judgments. God the Father and Jesus is in the business of SAVING not throwing his Creation into a (literal) fire. GOD…[Read more]

Nick……..Explain to us how death and hell can be (THROWN) into a literal lake of fire then. And while you are at that explain to us what this means. “But He shall be saved (YET) as by FIRE”. How is literal fire going to save anyone. Nick if you want to understand scripture you must understand it in a Spiritual since, Jesus said the (words i…[Read more]

Nick…..So say you, but scripture does not say what you are saying, brother.love and peace to you and yours……………gene

T8……I also agree with Malcolm……God is seen in the things He CREATES. For the invisible things of GOD are known by the things created. God IS A SPIRIT and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth.Peace to you and yours…………….gene

WJ…..why does it take so much intense understanding to get your ideology into a persons mind, when just a few true scripture gives complete understanding without trying to TORK scriptures to meet you Trinitarians ideologies. Why can't the simple truth be enough without all the word games you and other trinitarians seem to need to meet you…[Read more]

Nick……..Does scripture say some will not be saved then. Show us where God says He will throw anyone into a (literal) eternal every burning Fire and watch them scream out into all eternity in pain and anguish. Far more scriptures give support to Mercy and forgiveness unto all. ” For God concluded (ALL) under sin, that He might Have mercy on…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2008,08:56)Hi, So this pernicious philosophy insults and denies our Lord Jesus by denigrating his words and elevating those of his servants over him. In so doing it also similarly treats the Father who sent him. By falsely teaching all men are saved it denies the possibility of salvation for those who receive it by…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 13 2008,12:27)CO,Good.You are allowed to feed on them.Nick……CAN'T YOU SEE THE ARROGANCE IN THAT STATEMENT. MAY GOD HELP YOU BROTHER.said in love…………….gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 13 2008,12:20)CO, Do I believe Jesus preached to the Jews? Yessir.  The words he spoke are spirit and life. Why not partake?Nick……….> what makes you think CO is not feeding on Jesus' words. Who are you to think you can qualify or disqualify Him. God resists the PROUD and gives GRACE to the HUMBLE. I think is would…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 15 2008,08:44)GB, It is possible to choose to believe anything but faithfulness demands we prefer the teaching of scripture to that of the world.Nick….right but that faithfulness does (NOT) demand we perceive scriptures in the light of your personal understanding does it. Thats the problem here it's not that we are…[Read more]

To All………> HEAR “O” ISRAEL THE LORD (HE EXISTS) OUR GOD ( POWER) IS (ONE) LORD. Not two or three triune anythings. If you don't believe this then you don't believe JESUS, and the (OUR) included Jesus HIM ALSO.love and peace to you all……………..gene

Nick……again where did i ever say I (Preferred) anyones teaching over Scriptures, I may (Prefer) another's teaching over (YOUR) understanding of what scripture says, but when did i (EVER) say I prefer anyones teaching over scripture. You need to stop saying things about people that they never said, is that the example you recieve from Christ.…[Read more]

Adam…..it should, but it won't, the carnal mind will never let go of thinking it is it's own salvation and has power to chose it own destiny, it hates the idea of a truly (SOVEREIGN) God who is over all things that exists and retains total power over all things. Man does not want to (image) GOD He wants to (be) GOD.love and peace to you and…[Read more]

Nick…..who said i was helpless, God has strengthen me to follow Him by the Spirit He has given me, it guides me and teaches me (ALL) things and convinces me to follow the steps of Jesus Christ. Where do you get the idea i am helpless i have been empowered by GOD i am far from helpless. There was a time when i was Helpless and bound captive by…[Read more]

Tim…..thats why i think it takes God's Spirit to guide us through scriptures, and come to some kind of unity of the Faith.peace and love to you an yours…………….gene

T8………Amen to that post brother.love and peace to you and yours………………gene

Nick….you now garbing for straws, where does it say “You can Chose to have your pottery cleaned up for divine us”. You have no scripture to support you position. The scripture you list are things GOD does in us and are not the result of our doing, He causes us to chose his ways by His (GRACE) His influencing on our hearts and minds. You still…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 14 2008,05:10)GB,God forces nobody to be saved.God wants our choice involved.Grace is never compulsionNick….. you now introduce a new word into our conversation the word (FORCE), GOD doesn't force anything He Simply CREATES IT NEW. “for we are (CREATED) unto good WORKS. Nick your losing site of the fact your the CLAY…[Read more]