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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick………true (at this time) but who are you to say they never will. If God has set Himself to save (ALL) then (ALL) will ultimately be saved, rather you like it or not brother. There (ARE) many scriptures that support this point of view and have been quoted here many times but you chose to ignore then. And hang on to (YOUR) doctrine of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Deception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick………show us who here has ever said Scientist know more about truth than Jesus Christ. The only thing said was the Man NEWTON know more about the word Satan and Devil or demons then (YOU) did. And you carried that over into saying I am taking His word over Jesus' words, when in fact the words of Newton go right along with what Jesus was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2008,14:54)GB, Paul was not in competition with his Master. Christ was in him continuing his work.Galatians 2:20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Adam…….you have it absolutely right don't let anyone shake you lose from that truth, Logos is simply and attribute of God the Father and is not separate from Him, and the LOGOS or Gods words were in Christ, but that in no way makes him the word, He simply spoke the word as the Spirit of GOD gave him utterance. Jesus said plainly in several…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic God's Glory in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
brent.stock7………..Good question, God said he gives His glory to no (MAN), so whats Gods Glory , He is the (ONLY) creator and the (ONLY) miracle worker there is. We are told to honor Jesus even as we honor the Father , but honor is one thing and Glorify is quite another. All the works of Jesus were performed by GOD the Father, Remember he said…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick…….no man (CAN) repent on his own, he must be guided to repentance BY the SPIRIT of GOD. Those people Peter was talking to in Acts were brought to repentance by the Holy Spirit that fell on them and it caused them to repent , they did not repent on their own. The Holy Spirit convicted them in there Hearts and then they said “men and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2008,09:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2008,04:21)Tim…….Amen, Jesus was the greatest universalism teacher there ever was, even saying all mens sins shall be forgiven men. The self righteous hate that thought, they love the idea of excluding others. There piousness has puffed them up, they try to limit God saving…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2008,05:12)GB, Again, do not seek excuses to put the thoughts of men above God's. God's are higher. Submit to the Word and let God clarify what you see as superficial discrepancies.You must be transformed by renewal of your mind–according to the Word.Nick……..AGAIN, the word of God is not limited to Just what…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Chosenone………Jerry you have added much understanding to Gods words and i hope you will not stay away long brother.love and peace to you and yours……………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Tim…….Amen, Jesus was the greatest universalism teacher there ever was, even saying all mens sins shall be forgiven men. The self righteous hate that thought, they love the idea of excluding others. There piousness has puffed them up, they try to limit God saving POWER for all MANKIND. love and peace to you and yours brother…………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick………yes there is so what the answer? My point is that the words written do not always give us the correct understanding we must , ask, seek, and knock in order to get a correct (understanding). For instance the answer to the questions i ask are, as concerning the word Camel is this, the word for (rope) in Aramaic, which is the language…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick……yea, but rather if only God's Children would follow God's Spirit, as Jesus did.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..what do you do with where Paul said God would Judge mens hearts according to (HIS) Gospel? Seams Jesus had a gospel and so did Paul. Jesus was certainly anointed but he was not the only one anointed. God The Father is not limited to the man Jesus in what he can reveal and do. You seem to think He can only speak through Jesus and what any…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic FAITH Part 7 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Zthebrean………Amen to that……………..love and peace to you and yours……………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Adam……………I agree, God was (IN) Christ reconciling the world unto (HIMSELF)>Jesus even said the words i am telling you are (NOT) mine, so if they weren't His, how could he be them then. It was the ONLY TRUE GOD (IN) Christ expressing HIMSELF (THROUGH) HIM. But that never made Jesus GOD HIMSELF> Again you have proved the TRINITY the LIE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Adam…….. You are right saying the scriptures use of the word Christ does not always refer to Jesus Himself, as most suppose it does, but it always does refer to the anointing rather the anointing was in Jesus, Us , or any angle, it's all the one and the same Spirit of GOD. That Spirit was what was the ROCK guiding Israel in the wilderness.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick……….All being lead by GOD find it, they are HIS Sheep and they Know the voice of the master, because GOD has given the the ability to know it , not because they of there own “free” choices know it. peace……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
EP……..I like your explanations on some things, but this TRINITY thing is definitely wrong brother. I would ask if you would reconsider that position with no outside scholarship other then the scriptures themselves, and not adding extra meanings to what is written, like John 1:1 and so forth. And in the light that Jesus said “FOR THOU ARE THE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..Salvation is not a matter of Him that wills, but of God that calls and gives through GRACE Salvation to all he CALLS. You did not chose GOD He chose to save YOU, And he does it the the operation of (HIS) GRACE (God's influencing on the heart) your works have nothing to do with it. You must put yourself to death and that includes your…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universalism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 9 months ago
Nick…….I believe God reveals to hum ever He choses to. As in the case of Peter, remember Jesus said that flesh and blood did not reveal that unto him, even Jesus was flesh and blood when he said that , so Jesus himself didn't reveal that to Peter but God who was in heaven did it. Nick to make a statement the we are not to use reason is not…[Read more]
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