Quote (942767 @ Dec. 01 2008,04:41)Hi:Will those of you who believe that we do not have a “free will”, the freedom to choose between good and evil or between whether or not we will serve the Lord when we hear the gospel, why then is God going to hold us accountable for the life that we live?Nick……God will hold us accountable in this life, (FOR…[Read more]

Nick……….You seem to want to be the potter, not the clay. Think about it brother. You can call it magic if you want, but GOD is the (ONLY) creator there is and we shouldn't deny his SOVEREIGNTY over His creation. And it does say we are (CREATED) unto good works. It does not say, we create ourselves unto good works by our so-called free…[Read more]

Laurel………I have both read and studied the scriptures for many many years and even studied the Torah with the Jews and Rabbi's as well as being under the law and Obey the Torah and all the Holy Days and keeping all the clean and unclean food laws as well a tithing's, for seven years or so. I truly know the Torah as well or better than most.…[Read more]

Nick……I agree with you, But Scripture is not always straight way understood by people , one reason is because of , symbolisms, parables, and the like, Script requires some Spiritual interpretations. If they were so easily understood there wouldn't be all this misunderstanding going on as it is today. In fact i believe with out God Spirit…[Read more]

Adam………I agree with you also on this.love and peace to you and yours……………..gene

Laruel……If you think keeping the Sabbath , or clean and unclean food laws or Holy days will save you you are mistaking, ” for whosoever is under LAW is under a (CURSE)”. Is that twisting up scripture also.peace………..gene

Laurel……….Here is one for all to consider, Mat 21:31…> Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him , the first, Jesus saith them, Verily I say unto you, that the publicans and the Harlots (GO) into the Kingdom of GOD before You (Pharisees) > does it say that the {Pharisees don't go into the kingdom of God} NO it say…[Read more]

Laurel…..if you are accusing me of teaching false doctrine, please have the decency to tell me what false doctrine i am teaching. Laurel i believe you are misrepresenting the Spirit of Yahweh and are expressing your own spirit at least it look that way. You can go to the TORAH for your guidance if you want, But I will Just keep praying and…[Read more]

942767………All the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will rise in Judgment and condemn the generation of the Pharisees at the time of Christ, to to think they were eternally destroyed is wrong, the example was about God's intense judgments on evil not his eternally destroying people. You need to understand i am not say people are going to be saved…[Read more]

942767……I noticed you added your opinion to the scripture you quoted, (YOU SAID UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL Will< IT"S THEIR CHOICE) Please show Scripture that says that. Are you saying GOD is incapable of Saving whosoever He wants to , and we are not really the clay but we assist the potter in His work on us. Sounds like a new Gospel !. love and…[Read more]

Laurel……..you have given a perfect picture of (SELF) Salvation You mention your own repentance and obedience a self focused salvation but not a WORD about THE GRACE OF GOD. GRACE (God's influencing on the heart) “for the gentiles who have (NOT THE LAW) but do the things contained in them show the LAW written ON their Heart (BY THE HAND OF…[Read more]

Laurel………..How do you know if the death talked about doesn't means putting the way we live to death and if this was not done in this life it must be done after the resurrection, through interring into intense Judgment with God who is said to be the CONSUMING FIRE. “For our God is a consuming fire”.How do you know if God Himself is not the…[Read more]

Nick……..Jesus taught salvation by obedience of the Law to the Jews, Paul taught we are saved by GRACE and that GRACE was NOT of the Law. When the rich young ruler came and ask him what must he do to inter the Kingdom of God< Jesus said keep the commandments and even listed some of them. But Paul said by obedience of the Law no Flesh will be…[Read more]

Nick….if you and 942767 want to believe God will Destroy people in an ever burning literal “lake of fire” you need to show scripture to prove your points not I and CO have both shown scriptures that show there is a strong leaning for salvation of All through fire Judgments. If you are so adamantly against that then produce you clear proofs.…[Read more]

Nick………i agree with that.peace…………gene

Nick……..right and it's God that puts you in the vine not yourself , It's the GRACE OF GOD. Some on there own try to join themselves to the vine but can not produce fruit and these God takes away, but the Father knows the fruit canes even as a pruner knows them and will leave those canes (branches) attached, for it is God who attached them. The…[Read more]

942767………..Where did CO say Jesus' words did not apply to all, He said Jesus was sent specifically to the House of Israel, And Jesus himself said that. The question was not about His words , it was who Jesus was sent specifically to. Thats the way i understand what Co was talking about.peace to you and yours…………………gene

To All………remember Blood in scripture is symbolic for (LIFE) when it says we are not to EAT (take to ourself) the blood, that means symbolically to take to ourselves the life of another. GOD is, the Physical prophets nothing. God worked with Carnal minds in Carnal way, because the Carnal mind can not comprehend Spiritual things. It is an…[Read more]

Laruel……….Looking at spiritual things in a physical sense does not give us the proper understanding. God gave CARNAL COMMANDMENTS for CARNAL MINDS , Minds that had to be controlled by fear Like it shows in Ex 20:20 As Paul said the (LAW) is FOR the (UNGODLY) and Sinners. WE are a Spiritual House and need to understand things in a spiritual…[Read more]

Nick…….No we need whats makes the vine grow that the Spirit of God, because without that even the vine it self would die. You seem to worship Jesus higher then you do the Father, Your need to worship who Jesus worshiped and obeyed. That is the Father focus on the Father and He will let you understand what Jesus was saying and who he was saying…[Read more]