David , they don’t understand what you said.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Proclaimer I also am a strong supporter of free speech,  but I believe everyone should be held accountable by law  for what he or she says.  Espically if it is character damaging and untrue. I believe a person doing that,  should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, So we are taught to measure our words, for the pain and suffering the…[Read more]

Berean …..You could be more wrong then if you tried,  The Lamb is not now lord of lords, and king of kings, he will be during the millennial reign of him and the Saint’s.   There agin it shows the time period, for those who have eyes to see it. It takes place when he becomes lord of lords and king of Kings.  It speaking of a time when he is tha…[Read more]

Proclaimer, Berean, Edj, and all….Islam will not even be in existence when Rev 17, takes place. You people still don’t understand the time-line,  ok,  let’s try something else. ,

Now please try to think clearly,  who is this speaking about?

Rev 17:7-8…….And the angel said unto me, wherefore did you marvel? , I will tell you the mystery of…[Read more]

Carmel……so to you Jesus did not say to the person , “why call “ME”  good, there is only “ONE” that is Good , and that is God “.  and to you he did not say this also,  “the Father “God” is greater then I am, and none can take them out of “his” hand”. 

And your Jesus did not say,  “ì “always” do what pleases the Father”. 

Carmel making J…[Read more]

Proclaimer……go to Daniel 2:32…..“this images “head” was of fine gold,  his “breast and arms” of sliver, his “belly and thighs ” of brass, his “legs” of iron, his “feet” part of iron and part of clay. 

Notice each of the body parts are broken up into “individual”, sections for this prophesy. 

1…….head…………………fine gold ..…[Read more]

To all……unless you understand that John was transported into the time of the Sixth kingdom period to come on this earth  and the prophesied from that time line forward , you can never understand REVELATIONS.  IT ALL Begins to  MAKES SENSE once you understand that . , and tie it in with the SIX kingdoms  DANIEL  told King Neburchnasser, if you…[Read more]

To all……why not just believe Jesus and what he said? …“this is eternal life, that they might know you “THE “ONLY” TRUE ” GOD,” …… WHAT PART OF THOSE WORDS OF JESUS IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?  Now if another text implys something different , who are you going to truly believe Jesus” direct words or a possibly miss understood  text?  Wh…[Read more]

Berean…..if we say,  1260 days that equals…………………….3 1/2 years.

If we say time, times,  and a half time, it also equals………3 1/2 years.

Just try using that I know t h ere are places where it does say God gave a Day for a year, Ezekiel had to lay on his side a year for a day, for the sins of the kingdom of Isreal, and a…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..The word “sea” in Rev. Means “the sea of humanity,”  it’s just another way of saying it came forth out from among  hunamity.    Like the beasts of Babylon,  were different kingdoms rising up in the earth and taking over  another other beast kingdom that superseded it, But it rose up from humanity, but a different leader or king.…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..I have tried to start a topic but don’t seem to be able to,  has this changed sense before?

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Proclaimer…..The on that “is” Sets the time line, John was speaking from the time of the day of the Lord Jesus, which is the “SIXTH” , ruling kingdom on earth. , the next to follow would be the Seventh, which is a restoration of the fifth Bablonian kingdoms,  we are now in t h e time of the FIFTH BABYLONIAN world ruling  kingdom.  The net to c…[Read more]

Berean. ……Rev 12: 14 says  time and times and a half time…… it adds like this

Time=………….1 yr

Times= ………..2 yrs

Half Time= …1/2 year

That a total of 3 1/2 years…….this takes place at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s,   they are protected from the serpent , Satan.  All this takes place at the…[Read more]

Berean……sorry   that would be the one we are in now, the toes of iron and clay,  the 5th kingdom mentioned by DANIEL 2.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Berean……the last of the Babyloian kingdoms are the ten toes of iron and clay, Daniel explains it, theses are nations strong as iron (milataraly ) but do not operate as one single nation , government, because they don’t agree with each other on how to rule,  “exactly” as it is today.  Dan 2: 41-44. 

We are in that time period, the next Ki…[Read more]

Proclaimer. ….this whole world is part of the BABYLOIAN KINGDOMS,   IT ALL FUNCTIONS THROUGH TRADE AND POWERFUL NATIONS all over this world , who trade with eachother but are not single minded as a single world rulling government as the past world rulling government were. The stone cut out without hands is hurling down from God,  this whole ec…[Read more]

Edj…..the garbage is you presenting a will as being “free”  and not  doing what is “influencing” it the most. Now that’s  real garbage.  

You or no one else has ever posted anything here from a will that is not driven by what is “influencing” it the most, or you simply wouldn’t post about anything.  You have never had a desire to express anythi…[Read more]

Proclaimer. ….Good then there exists “no” WILL that “itself” is “truly” free,  CORRECT? 

Yes or no,  please.  In fact a “WILL” any WILL , only does what is “influencing” it THE MOST , or it simply would not be a WILL, right? 

Therefore there exists no such thing as a “WILL” that is “ITSELF” free, of what is “influencing” it. 

Now do we have <…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..not according to EDJ. , BUT you ,” can” that I did answer him,  but you can’t see I did answer your, “freewill” idology also.. showing you from scriptures “freewill” “THINKING” , is EXACTLY WHY , there was a fall of mankind at the garden of Eden, “AND” the reason for the Millennium regin of Jesus and the Saint’s.  It was to p…[Read more]

Proclaimer, and all.. …..OK let’s  deal with the millennial regin of Jesus and the Saint’s,    you say it’s  for “freewill” teaching ,   I say it’s just the oppisit,  It shows that freewill does not work. It destory’s “freewill” idology  completely, in fact that is exactly the purpose of the millennial reign., it is to destory any idea of,   “…[Read more]