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    Proclaimer, Berean and all. ….SCRIPTURE SAYS ,  “the beast that “CARRIES” , the women  (BABYLON ) ,  “all of them that have ever  risen “, both now and will be IN THE FUTURE,   is  Satan, the Devil.   He is the under belly of all the (Babyloian ) type of world Empire’s , both now,  the FIFTH,  AND when the Sixth  world ruling kingdom of Jesus Ch…[Read more]

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    Berean……Daniel was talking about world ruling kingdoms, it had nothi g to do about religions of the world,  all those kingdoms had all kinds of different religions in them. the Bablonian empires are about “world ruling” ECONIMIC AND MILITARY powers that have risen and fallen since the time of BABYLON, under king Neburchnasser, unto our day,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. ……Did that post just fly over your head? go back and reread it and this time please think about it, and the scriptures I quoted.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. …..“for “all” That is in the world, the “lust” of the eyes , and “lust” of the flesh , and pride of life , are from the world, and the world is passing away and the “lust” with it”.

    Many confuse lust for love , but  the love of God works completely different then the love of the world,

    The love of the  world is just another word f…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. ….You  did not choose God by your own “will” , scripture says “no one chose him” , no not one,  he chose you by “his” own will,  you simply are a recipient of his grace, love and mercy. we all are.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. …..go back and reread what you just wrote,  you say God will not “let you”   chose what’s not right , Where is  FREE “WILL” IN THAT? 

    A WILL IS THE PRODUCT OF A DECISION YOU HAVE MADE , AND THAT DECISION IS BASED ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOU MIND, EXACTLY AS DAVID SAID. . We are all held “captive” By what’s going on in our minds.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. …..Wrong And Will Requires a decision on our part or it simply would not be a “will” ,  now would it?  Don’t  you understand that a “WILL”  is the “result”, of  decisions,  taking place in our minds?  what is being feed into our minds drives our “WILL’S,  nothing free about it. 

    the term “freewill” , Is an OXYMORON, …[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..There is“no” difference,  we all were in the mind of God from the beginning of his human creation,  including “the man” Jesus. But we all came into our own  existence in our own order of time, “including Jesus”.  Everything in existence came from the mind and “will”  of God, without him , “nothing could exist”, nothing. IMO[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..Yes it was promised him “before” his comming into his existence, by his birth on this earth, and he recieved it after his resurection from the dead , as scripture testifies.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    let God be true and every man a liar. ,  we have all shared misinformation at times in our lives.  no one has all truth, for we know in part and we see as looking through a glass, according to the apostle Paul.  So seeking truth is a inquiry, we must seek it, ask for it, and knock for it to be opened unto us.

    SO WHEN SCRIPTURE “CLEARLY” SAYS, so…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic New Topic in the forum Test Posts 5 years, 1 month ago

    Proclaimer. ….. The murder John Calvin,  had the old Spaniard Michael Servetus,  slowly Burned to death, for writing a paper on , “the ERRORS of the trinity” .   read the true account of that trial in the book “OUT OF THE FLAMES”. 

    He certanily is not worth mentioning here , IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

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    Berean……..Rev 20: 2…..”And he laid hold on the “dragon”, that old serpent, which “IS”, the Devil, and “Satan”, and bound him a thousand years”. 

    BEREAN,  we ha all been lied to by false prophets over many years,  most everything all this stuff we are hearing takes place at the END of  the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saint’s.  Not Be…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……Who is the one who was put in the bottomless pit?  Is it not Satan, the devil?

    Rev 17:7…..and the angel said unto me, wherefore did you marvel, I will tell you t h e mystery of the women,  (Babylon the Great),  and the  “beast” the carries her, which has the seven heads and ten horns”.  

    Verse 8…… “the beast that you saw [Read more]

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    Carmel…….As I have said many times here, “it’s hard to catch a snake in a brier patch”.  I have never seen anyone who could change scriptures and make them say what they  apsolutely do not say , or even hint at,  better then you here.

    Tell us,   what church you belong to , you sound like you may be Catholic, or tied into their teachings some…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. ….Jesus said 80 times he was a son of man,  I am pretty sure he had human nature exactly as we have also. He also had the Spirit od God in him giving him the nature of God, but all who have the Spirit of God has that same nature in them also.

    So where is Jesus any different “IN NATURE” , them any of the SAINT’S of God?

    Jesus told…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..my point was t h e word LUCIFER, does not mean SATAN. IT MEANS “RISING STAR” , a medaphor, used which we still use today. 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    Proclaimer……. whatever, all  words should be under the same scrutiny,   How else are you going to know if it is a lie or the truth?  Truth always brings to light  the truth, while a lie is deceitful and brings to ruin and is of the evil one.  Both have consequences, one good,  one evil .

    My Dad taught me when I was a child,  it takes a thief…[Read more]

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    To all……Revelations is a book full of symbolic language, but there are clues in it , that help us , and one of those super clues is TO UNDERSTAND THE Time-line,  Given in Rev 17,  once you do that, then things begin to fall in place.

    The biggest “trip up” is not understanding that John Was not speaking from the time he was given the PROP…[Read more]

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    Carmel……the word Lucifer means rising star,  we still use that term today,  the king of Babylon was a rising Star of his day. It is a metaphor of our rising star,  “the Sun” .

    Lucifer does not mean,  or is Satan,  that just another false teaching.   If you look  closely at that scripture, you will see that……Isa 14:4 ……says it was a “p…[Read more]

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    Berean. …..You jumping all over the place from on subject to another,  you need to slow down a little brother.   What I have told you is the simple truth,  my God our Father help you to come to see it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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