Berean……you need to try to understand  the timeline of events, given in Rev 17,  then it will help you understand much about revelations, try to see that John was “transported in time”  to the End of the Thousand year period, of the kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s.
This might help , go reread what Jesus said about his return, what would be ha…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..Here is the difference between you and me, I am here trying to show others how “I ” see, the interruption of the book of revelations among other things, you on the other hand are here to accuse me of being a liar, and saying I am saying false things about book of Revelations , which you or anyone else have never proved I have yet,…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Show me one place I ever said that the devil or SATAN , was the “ONLY” beast’s mentioned in the book of revelations at? Please show me that,  fact IS you are the true liar here not me. Need proof , I can list many places in scripture where the word BEAST is applied to a lot of different thing Satan is just one of then.
Rev 4:6,…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Rev 20:1…And I saw a angel come down from heaven having the key of the bottomless pit , and he laid hold on  the ‘Dragon” , that old serpent which “IS” the DEVIL, and “SATAN”, AND BOUND “HIM “,  ( not them) for a thousand years.

Rev 20: 3…..And  cast “him” into the “bottomless pit”, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, th…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….You still refuse to deal with the question you as me,  and that question was to prove from scripture that the Beast carrying the women BABYLON “IS” SATAN?  why not , now, that you have finished trash mouthing me, deal with the answer I gave “from scripture”  .  Let that be the proof of who is wrong or right.

You ounce again prov…[Read more]

Proclaimer……there you go again trying to make it about me instead of the truth.

Go read my post # 869187 ,  

NOTICE THE “DRECT” QUOTES FROM SCRIPTURE.  That not my opinion that’s scripture saying that.  Seems if you were of the truth you would be easily able to put that together.
I do not believe I am a prophet, nor anyone else here is,  …[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Quite  making it about me.  It’s not about me it’s about the ” truth”.  Look, you ask me about something I said about the BEAST BEING Satan,  I posted it to you. , now you have changed subject matter completely and trying to say I am saying I am a prophet. Show me one time I ever said I was a prophet here, I may have said I believ…[Read more]

Berean…….the Roman Empire or kingdom dose not even exist today,  it was destroyed a long time ago, it has no influence on the world ruling governments any more,  neither does the Catholic Church  have any power over any world ruling nations.

Berean all that stuff your preaching and following is just a bunch  of false prophets,  preaching lies…[Read more]

Proclaimer……problem is not that I am saying it wrong but your not reading it correctly.  But I will require the scriptures that show that the beast is Satan and he is the one carrying all seven of the world ruling Babylon kingdoms, which scripture shows as a women.

Rev 17: 4…..And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE…[Read more]

Edj……..what I said was “SOMETHING TO “CONSIDER”   You people can’t seem to get ant thing right,  I never said I know for sure that was it,   I simple said “something to consider” .

But I will tell you this, unless you understand that John in Rev. 17,  was speaking from the point in time of the end of the thousand year period of the reign o…[Read more]

Proclaimer…who said the beast is the women, your not reading my posts right, your trying to make me out to look wrong , go back and reread the post, and try to get it right this time.

What I said was, Satan is,  the beast who , “CARRIES” the woman, Babylon .

Your getting mixed up like when I say the Will “itself” is not free,  but we are g…[Read more]

To all……The mark of the beast might not be able to be understood until after the millennial regin when it appears during the SEVENTH Rise of the Babyloian kingdom on this earth, which takes place at the end of  the millennial regin of Jesus and the Saint’s.  So until then there might be no way we can actually know for sure.  I am not saying th…[Read more]

To all……The beast (SATAN)   is what carries the women (Babylon )  all seven of her rising from the time of King Nebuchadnezzar to present Satan is and alway was it’s underpinning,

They are all world rulling powers that have risen and fallen over time  we are in the time of the fifth Babylonian world rulling kingdom,  the next to come is the …[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..Evidently you haven’t understood what I and others and even your own posted Videos  have said, over and over,   there exists no such thing as a WILL “itself” that is free , or it simply would not be a WILL,  GET IT? ,  A WILL is what a “captivated mind produces” a mind held captivated by it thoughts.  just as “ALL” humanity is. [Read more]

Edj……Revelations has  nothing to do with any religion , it about world rulling empires , economic and MILITARY powers , not religions , because  all religions exists and existed in all the Babyloian kingdoms,  that ever existed.

All who try to make it about religions are “false prophets”  BECAUSE NO RELIGION HAS EVER BECAME A WORLD RUL…[Read more]

To all ….. Something to consider,   those who have the “Spirit” of Satan, driving them (have the mark of Satan in their “foreheads” that is to say “in” their thinking) they will do his “work”  (the mark seen by what their hand is doing) , which is present in all the Babyloian type kingdom that have risen on this earth , and will again be the mar…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Your WILL is what your mind “produces”,  therefore it is held “captive” by whats going on “in” your mind.  nothing free about it,  there exists no such thing as a “freewill”,  that Word is a “OXYMORON”, because no such thing exists as a “Will”  that is free. 

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Proclaimer. …Yes it dose negate a “free will” , because at that moment you can “only” choose What you  brain thinks. ,nothing free about it,  you as all  of us are held “captive ” buy what’s going on in our minds.   

Our freedom we are given by God  is to “do “,  those purposes going on in our minds, which CREATES our WILL’S. But the Will “…[Read more]

proclaimer ….My doctrine is not about a “captivated”, “free” will, but simply a captivated will, which you have a freedom to “express”.  But that has “nothing” to do with what is driving the “WILL” “itself”.   

I do realize you have trouble understanding that, but that doesn’t change the truth now does it? go back and look again at the ori…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..What David is saying is right,  but you obviously do not have the ability of a  “free” Will to accept it, but your will is held in “captivity”  to your thoughts,  that is  an obvious truth here.

And you are indeed “self willed”, held in captivity by “your own thoughts” as most are, unless God sets  them free they will remai…[Read more]