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    Lu…….please show scriptures that say that, I know not one that says the Father would not have existed without Jesus,  I think you have It backward. Truth is, Jesus or any things else would not have  existed without the  only true God, the father of all creation.  Remember scripture that says, “though hast made him a little lower then the Ange…[Read more]

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    Carmel…..did not Jesus say pray this way,  “Our” “Farther” who art in heaven?  When he used the term “OUR” was he not referring to himself also?  Not to even mention what Berean brought out. God the Father would have existed no matter if Jesus did or not . 

    Your logic is not only none scriptural,  but shows your destorted views and lack of true…[Read more]

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    Carmel……I will explain it to you , let’s see if you can understand it.

    The reason God the after never said he was the only God, is because the word GOD CAN APPLY TO ANYTHING THAT YOU TRUST IN FOR YOUR POWER.  The word GOD is a “descriptor” it’s any thing you trust in , your money, you government, your car, any leader , God is not a perso…[Read more]

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    Berean…..Just the opposite , what Jesus said,  proves he was and is not a GOD.  Why do you people have to twist up every thing Jesus clearly said , to make it fit your false teachings.

    Here is what Jesus truly said,  “this is life eternal that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” true GOD, 

    PAUL said this,  “but unto us (true belie…[Read more]

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    LU….. Jesus said, not me,  

    luk 18: 19…..”Why callest thou “me good? “NONE” is good, SAVE ONE,  that is God.

    Do you actually think that statement of Jesus, doesn’t apply to him also? Do you think the ruler was not talking to him?  Do you believe Jesus was lying when he said that?

    LU…..You see that’s the trouble here, many say they bel…[Read more]

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    Danny,  God the Father “does not”  share the same name as Jesus.  They are two different beings, one is named YAHOVAH  our GOD,  the other is the son , Jesus the human anointed one, who has “many ” brothers. 
    Are you and your Father the same person?  Trying to make Jesus have the same name and be the same person as God the Father is simply false t…[Read more]

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    Carmel…..God the Father who is Spirit took the spirit of life from him, For lying against the Spirit of truth. Simple as that. He and his wife know exactly that they were not telling the truth, so God took the Spirit of life from them and they died.

    The reason people like you and others here don’t fall over dead also, is because your blind to t…[Read more]

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    Carmel……God is “HOLY”.   AND HE “IS” Spirit,  according to Jesus.  The Spirit of truth is from God the Father, this Spirit of truth was given Jesus, through his anointing he received at the Jordan river. The Spirit of truth is one way God is in “ALL AND THROUGH ALL.” ,  The reason Ananias fell down dead was because he had the spirit of tru…[Read more]

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    Berean……Yes it is God almighty, the “only” true God,  according to the “man” Jesus.

    When are you people going to start to believing  what Jesus himself , “SAID”?

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

     

     

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    Carmel……David answered your question ,  THE LORD  “YAHOVAH ”  his God and our God , delivered him, just as he delivered him from the lion and the bear. 

    Carmel,  Jesus was “all” about what God the Father was doing, in and through him,  he was an obedient servant of the Father as a “obedient” son.

    Carmel, my point is this,  who is worthy…[Read more]

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    Danny , seeking it was God the Father who sent him,  So who is the “TRUE” SAVIOR OF THE WORLD? 

    • It was “God” the Father who sent Jesus, Jesus never sent himself did he?
      Who 
      sent the saviors MOSES AND MANY OTHER SAVIORS TO SAVE ISREAL OVER AND OVER WAS IT THE SAVIORS OR GOD THE FATER WHO SENT THEM?  WHO ACTUALLY SAVED THE PEOPLE? 

    WHAT YOU PE…[Read more]

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    Danny….“No” I don’t believe Jesus is my savior,  I believe God the Father is my savior,  and he does it through the sacrificing  of his son , the man Jesus as payment for my sins.

    “GOD” so loved the world, that “HE” gave his only begotten (in and through humanity) Son, that he who believes in him “should not” parish but have everlasting life. [Read more]

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    To all….. If you worship and call JESUS your God, and creator,  what do you do about the “many” of his brothers?
    Scripture says, Jesus is the firstborn of “many” brothers.  Why do you push Jesus away from your own identity as a human being?  Can’t’ you see that is exactly what Satan wants you to do?

    He doesn’t want you to believe he is and was…[Read more]

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    Lu….Jesus said…..why call me good, there is “ONLY” “ONE” that is good , and that is GOD”. SEEMS JESUS did not want anyone to call him Good,  so what makes you think God could not have created anything without Jesus?
    God the Father said this…..Isa 45:18….For this says the LORD,  that created the heavens; God “HIMSELF” THAT FORMED THE EA…[Read more]

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    Edj……there is new evidence found that shows that the dome of the rock is not even the right place where the temple was located. It’s on you tube, I don’t know how to post it , but if you or someone could find it and post it , that would help.  They show by actual scriptures where the temple was built , where King David acquire the land for…[Read more]

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    Berean….please produce one scripture that says    Before he was on earth his name YHVH or YAHOVAH. “.  Berean, `if What we say is not “specially” said in our scriptures. Then we are adding “our”,  thoughts and reasoning to the text, that is not sound teaching, that is why there are hundreds if not thousands of different churches teaching diffe…[Read more]

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    To all…..if we are going apply our own reasoning to the scriptures we must apply it against “all” scriptures addressing our points, not just pick and choose . For instance, If we say JESUS IS GOD , then we need to see a scripture that says “just that”,   not take a scripture and try to force the text to say something that it doesn’t speci…[Read more]

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    Carmel…..but God beeping in someone by his Holy Spirit does not make that person a God. For it is written, that God might be “in” all and through “all. , so we still only have “ONE” true GOD.

    Peace ad love to you and yours……….gene

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    To all……Jesus said,   This is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”  the “ONLY” true God”, ..

    how did that get from “YOU” the “ONLY”  true GOD , to me “Jesus” a true God?

    Isa 45:5….I am the LORD, and there is “none else”, there is “NO” GOD besides me:

    read also verses 6, 7, 8,  please notice the word “I”   used there seven times, a…[Read more]

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    Berean,   Think about this brother,   “though thy sins be as Crimson, they shall be as white as snow”  

    Peace and love to you and yours………gene

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