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    Nick…….Rom 10:3 For they being (IGNORANT OF GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS) and going about to establish THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, Have (NOT) submitted themselves unto the righteousness of GOD. Thats the hammer that hit the nail on the head as Jodi would say.peace and love …………………………………..gene

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    Nick…..Grace and Peace might came through Jesus, but they came from GOD HIMSELF> Lets not forget that. Paul was talking about not the power of Jesus resting upon Him , but the Power of the ANOINTING (SPIRIT) of GOD. You keep trying to move The FATHER out of the picture Nick. ALL things come from GOD including Jesus, Jesus did not come from…[Read more]

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    Nick…….False (anointed) one are everywhere, even tunning Jesus into very GOD himself, This Has been going on form the start, more then a thousand years. The Spirit reminds us of the words of GOD Nick, the same words Jesus spoke to us. whosoever believes on me doe not believe on me but on him who sent me, Why do you think Jesus said that ,…[Read more]

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    Nick………if everyone could just come to view things from two stand point in scripture much would be cleared up. The is a Spritual side of things and a Physical side. The Physical side is CARNAL, and GOD made CARNAL Comandments to show Spiritual things.Sabbaths………..is to show us a time is coming when we are to cease from out works and…[Read more]

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    Nick………do you come to the Light then , so tell us some of you eminent sins you commit. And if Not then i guess those words you quote about men loving darkness instead of light may also apply to you, unless you are sinless, which i Highly doubt. Do you confess you sins to Jesus or to the FATHER, Who is faithful to forgive Us and Cleanse us…[Read more]

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    Kerwin ………Show where i misunderstand what Paul was teaching, No my friend it's you , who preach FEAR as a means of obedience not I , in my opinion you are trying to play both sides of this discussion, If i miss represent what Paul said Prove it, Don't Just accuse me. Show me Scripture I have misquoted or misinterpreted . Make foolish…[Read more]

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    Nick………. Tell us are you walking in the way of salvation then. Your getting the word (condemned) mixed up with Judged , look it up. And even if here actions were condemned doesn't mean they are. Judge (nothing before the time) right. God purpose is to save not destory. And who shooting the messenger here , i am certainly not, but I know they…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 07 2009,12:58)Hi TT, Self loathing?How can the saved condemn themselves?But we are poor servants.Lk18 8And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink? 9Doth he thank that servant because he did the…[Read more]

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    Mandy………good to see your back we all miss you, love and peace to you and yours…………………………..gene

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    942767…….So you say they were not forced to right, Your assume fear had nothing to do with it right, Then why did they stone a man to death for building a fire on the sabbath day then, and extract all these death penalties Like stoning them to death for all kinds of things they did wrong. Fornication, Adultery, etc. Law can only work through…[Read more]

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    Tim…….it does seem to be a kinder Nick. Maybe God has shown Him and given him more understanding.love and peace to you and yours……………………..gene

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    Martian……….good post. brother.love and peace to you……………..gene

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    Kerwin…….Why did Paul call it the administration of DEATH?2 Cor 3:4-7….> Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as from ourselves; but our sufficiency is from GOD; ..6..> Who also has made us able ministers of the New Testament; (NOT) of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter KILLS, but the Spirit gives life…7..>…[Read more]

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    Nick……….Amen, if your going to keep the Law you better do it all. Paul did not teach what the Jews were teaching< Paul even went so far as saying Law was for the UNGODLY, and SINNERS. I am not saying the ten commandments are, because they are spiritual and must be spiritually Keep. Law (forced compliance through the medium of FEAR) never…[Read more]

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    Nick………I took it as you were implying that we some how change and repent through the operation of FEAR, if i was wrong i apologizes brother.love and peace to you and yours…………………….gene

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    Samuel………..I think you may be better off then you think Brother. I have felt the same way many times in my life also. I do at times get caught to much is some of these debates myself. Something i need to work on. love and peace to you and yours………………………..gene

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    Nick………Have I not said all along the Fear in scripture is not the same as our English understanding of the word . The word Fear in scripture conveys to us reverence and respect, or AS you say (GODLY FEAR,) but to preach FEAR and TREMBLING as a means of making one right with GOD is foolish, that never worked in the Past and doesn't work now.…[Read more]

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    Nick……same question to you < Which of the quoted scriptures I quoted should we TOSS OUT OR JUST IGNORE. Why can't you or Kerwin answer this when obviously you two are against them. Is it because you are not sure about your (FEAR) teachings. Please expound if you can.love and peace to you………………………..gene

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    Nick………..Old wine skins have already been stretched to there maximum by the Gas of fermentation., and so if new wine is put in them they burst, and the wine is lost as well as the skin. Brother you can't put the New Covenant into the Old Covenant. It won't work. Again you say (WE MUST LET) as if to say we are (in control) of it. You still…[Read more]

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    Nick……..Amen to that.love and peace to you and yours…………….gene

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