David……….The word Elohim is a plural unit of POWERS all acting as one. I believe there are seven intellects connected with power and example would be Jesus is His present state is represent as having these seven (powers) symbolized as Horns and attached to them are seven eyes symbolized as Spirits (intellects) . And these seven go into all…[Read more]

Nick………….If you care to look close enough you will find what i have quoted is written, But you choose to ignore scripture that is in contradiction to you theologies. God back and reread what i have written and if you still need more scriptures i will be more then glad to supply them. This should clear up the cob weds brother..2 Ti 1:7. For…[Read more]

Nick…………as i said the word translated as angle can also be translated as Messenger, look up the Greek word. Spirit and angle or messenger are not the same , SPIRIT is in (the message), brought by (the messenger), as i have plainly shown you, Jesus said His (WORDS) were SPIRIT He did not say He was. Words are messages, but some one has to…[Read more]

Nick………..So basically you are saying your salvation is based on FEAR and Nothing to do with Love right. But scripture says LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR. SEAMS WE HAVE A DELI MA. I thought we have recieved the love of GOD into our hearts, but you evidently have recieved a spirit of FEAR and TREMBLING. ” But scripture says “but you have not recieved…[Read more]

Nick………the word Angle can be interpreted as Messenger also. A Messenger can be anyone delivering a message. The message is the Spirit He delivers , Jesus said the (WORDS) he delivered were Spirit, not angles or messengers. Jesus himself was the messenger. IMOlove and peace to you and yours……………………………………………gene

Thinker………that was God talking about Jesus, Jesus is also considered as a messenger or angle of GOD. Jesus is GOD's Spokesman and delivers to us GOD WORDS, As GOD the FATHER revealed them to Jesus He also sent Jesus to Speak them to John, and John wrote it down and sent  the letter to the Leaders of the seven Churches. I know this can get a…[Read more]

Kerwin……..Spirit as explained by Jesus is the (WORDS) He Spoke to them, these are (NOT) angles or messenger beings as you and thinker are saying. While a angle or messenger can bring a Word which is Spirit, as Jesus Did, that does not make the message the same as the messenger or angle bringing it. IMOlove and peace to you and…[Read more]

Nick…………. God blesses all He causes His rain to fall on the Just and the unjust alike right? The question is who makes the vessel clean? your quotes only prove my point , it is God that cleanses and He (ALONE) cleanses by his Spirit. working through the gift of GRACE, Not of our works.So when did they recieve His spirit was it, when He was…[Read more]

Nick……….again you desire to be the savior of yourself, by your so-called (FREE WILL Choice) , But Jesus said (NO) man (CAN) come unto Him unless the FATHER draw HIM. So where do you stand, in self salvation, or Salvation by GRACE. Which is it Nick?love and peace to you and yours………………………………..gene

Nick……….So are you saying That the LORD is not able to secure those He choses?. It's strictly up to you to decide what He can do or can not do. Are we then the savior of ourselves as you seem to think. Please post scripture the support you conclusions. Not your personal opinions. love and peace to you and…[Read more]

NIck………So Show us where it says, God puts his Spirit in only cleansed vessels then. peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2009,09:20)G, So God has seven spirits that are Him and they are in front of Him? Does that make eight?Nick………The LORD, who is (ONE) controls the seven Spirits or Powers and these seven make one unit of Power called GOD or POWERS or ELOHIM of ONE LORD. These Powers are before His throne as Scripture says. Why do…[Read more]

Kerwin……….Did you see how the early Hebrews used the symbols to represent How they view things. In Jeff Benner's book the Mechanical translation of the book of Genesis He uses (POWERS) for Elohim and it all Fits the texts. Check it out. If you get time to listen to some of His audio tapes i think you will find them quite interesting. He is a…[Read more]

David………I don't think it changes the meaning a lot , if we realize the these Powers are the working force of ONE LORD. God uses these Powers to bring about His purposes in Peoples lives and in the world as a whole. If we read John 1:1 with this in mind we can readily see that John was addressing the word was with Power and was Power, The…[Read more]

Nick………..The SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD or of POWERS are in FRONT of the Throne, And are the powers of one LORD. Hear O Israel the LORD our GOD (power) is ONE LORD. Notice it doesn't say (ONE GOD) Jesus Said in prayer to the FATHER, for thou (the Father) are the (ONLY) (TRUE) GOD (POWERS) The word GOD signifies (POWERS) of a LORD and Not the LORD…[Read more]

Nick……………God Said he looked for (ONE) righteous man and said He found (NONE)> Even Jesus said why callest me good the is none good except ONE that is good and that is GOD. But you seem to know better then Jesus does.  So now your are a clean vessel right and GOD puts His Spirit in you right? I gather that means you have no sin either…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2009,06:51)G, Your reasoning again arrogantly elevates itself against sacred scripture. Wake upNick………what does arrogant got to do with it? Please show how i am being Araguaya. It seem you the one being arrogant here not me. imolove and peace…………………………………..gene

Thinker …> I just had an idea, Go to the Sir Isaac Newton project Site and read what He had to say about the word GOD, and with you reasoning ability think about it. Peace brother.love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene

Thinker………the seven Spirits are of one (UNIT of POWERS) and all seven of these powers are in control of by (ONE LORD) “Hear O Isral the (LORD) our God (Powers) is (ONE LORD) not one GOD< However with that said Jesus Said when Praying to THE FATHER, FOR THOU ART THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. The thou was the FATHER and true (POWERS was the GOD)…[Read more]

Nick………The Spirit goes to who ever The Father Sends it to. Paul said all of us were sinners and lived ungodly lives and brother that includes you to, But God the Father took mercy on us all and sent His son to die for the sins of the (WHOLE WORLD) as John plainly said. Sorry you can't remove yourself from that condition, you and we are all…[Read more]