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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic goel in Isaiah 44:6 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….So who made Him lower then the angles, was it Him or was it the one He said was the (ONLY TRUE GOD ) that did it. And are we to presume that Jesus was lying when He said that, or maybe did not really mean it brother.love and peace to you and yours……………………………………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….The word Christ means the Christos or the anointing, and that anointing is the in all and through all , it is ONE GOD and He works in ALL and through ALL, by His anointing or (CHRISTOS) It was GOD (IN) Jesus via the (CHRISTOS) the was reconciling the world to himself. BUT that does not make Jesus (the CHRISTOS) that was in HIM.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
David……….you said i worshiped (POWER) that is a false statement, I worship the LORD GOD , (HE Exists with powers) is a person, Powers are what He (LORD) Possess. Your conclusions are not based on what I have ever said with regards to my worship. peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Seeking ………..it truly does matter to the LORD GOD how we view the creation and who He is brother. IMOlove and peace to you and yours…………………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker…………your theory and others falls apart seeing the LORD GOD said He created all things by His SELF Alone. So how do you plug that into you and others hypotheses. Are we to assume the LORD was lying? I still maintain that GOD or ELOHIM ONLY indicates the POWERS of the LORD. And the word (WORD) in John 1:1 means (uttered intellect)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proverbs 16:4 with Colossians 1:17 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker ………Yes the Father would have delivered Jesus from that fate, but then Jesus would not have the glory that was sat before him, So He chose to submit His Will to live to the FATHERS WILL for him to die, AS the Slain Lamb Sacrifice of the FATHER, for the Sins of the world. Now we need to ask ourselves why would GOD the FATHER do that,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic goel in Isaiah 44:6 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….brother why did Jesus say in prayer “FOR THOU ART THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD”. the word THOU means someone else , not the person talking, and the word ONLY means no other (true) GOD. This is plain, while there are many gods there is (ONLY ONE TRUE GOD)> and it wasn't the person making that prayer. (Jesus). IMOlove and peace to you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……… 1 CO 15:27…> For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him…28,,< And when all things shall be subdued into him, then shall the (SON) also Himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD may be…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick…………Good question thinker thinks He was talking to Jesus, and as i believe you do to. But the word Jesus is not in the text as you have noticed so Where does anyone get the idea it is Jesus that is being talked about here, and when you add in the fact that the LORD said He alone created everything By Himself, saying by myself, where…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proverbs 16:4 with Colossians 1:17 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
Thinker………..I am not saying Jesus does not have a will though, He puts it to death when it is contrary to GOD'S Will is all, If His will is in accordance to GOD'S I am sure he can exercise it fully. As we also can ours also. If we refuse to put our (contrary) wills to death then we are resisting the WILL of GOD. But if we do not go contrary…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker….Heb 2:6…> clarifies what i was saying..> But one in a certain place testifies (i believe that was King David), saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man (as Jesus said He was) that thou visitest him…7..> Thou madest him a little lower than the angles: thou crowned him with glory and honor, the works of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker ………you touched on a good point, and i will give you what i think, You ask do angles have Wills NOW, yes they do just as we have and Jesus did, We all have to submit, our wills the the Will of the Father, right, as Jesus did His, but because we do that, does that mean our wills are not of any value to us. No it does not because, if…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Kerwin…………remember when Jesus said after that you have recieved (POWER) from on HIGH. May our Father who is our GOD (POWER) work powerfully in all our lives brother. peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Kerwin………Almighty is the same as saying Powers, it indicates the powers of the LORD. You said that it also represented false Gods, and therefore conclude it could no just apply to the one LORD GOD, and it does represent powers of false religions, they did have powers over those who believed in them, even to the point of them offering up…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker……….dear brother, trust me i am no Trinitarian, Because i believe that God the Father is the (only) True God (power) and no one else is. You said that i believe the word GOD is impersonal and your are right (IF) you apply the word by it self as the word (POWER) would be impersonal if applied by it self. But if you are applying that to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Thinker……………….The powers of the LORD are very personal to him they, the (POWERS) are the (ONLY) TRUE GOD as Jesus plainly said. Thinker the word (ONLY True God) means no other (TRUE GOD) right, And the word (THOU) means not the person speaking right, if we are to believe what Jesus Said. Jesus used the word (TRUE) because there are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2009,13:26)G, What is this spirit intellect? Is it in the bible or did you add it?Nick………for about the hundredth time, Words (ARE SPIRIT) as Jesus said. So Spirit is Words. They equal each other, Now with that understanding ask YOURSELF, what is a WORD , is it not the EXPRESSION OF THOUGHT, THE MIND, EXPRESSING…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 5 months ago
thinker ….brother i disagree with you, the word (Spirit) and messenger can not be the same (person) because a word (expresed intellect) is a persons own intellect, but a messenger or angle is one who carries that message as Jesus was also., It can represent the persons mind or thoughts and there by identify the persons views, and a messenger is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Kerwin………..The LORD may very be the LORD of Words or intellect, But what i am saying is that the LORDS (WORDS) are connect with POWERS as Genesis say . GOD said let there be and it was done (how) was it not by his powers. John 1:1 also agree with this , in the beginning was the (WORD) or expressed intellect and the word was with GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Elohim in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Kerwin……..i don't know what the dictionaries say about the word (word) but Jesus said the words i am telling you (ARE) SPIRIT. So i believe that, and apply it to what Spirit is . And if we brake down what a word is we find it is the expression of ones intellect, So the words of GOD express His intellect to us and the words of a man express His…[Read more]
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