Georg…> Let me say first i believe in the first and the second resurrections but, 1..show me that written, that the second resurrection is the people in the millennial reign of Jesus and the Saints . 2 show me one person that is not found in the Lambs book of Life. Tell us how Hell and death can be thrown into a literial FIRE. The Lake of FIRE…[Read more]

Nick………..Men have the Spirit(intellect) from GOD in them, what do you think goes back to Him who gave it. Is it not the spirit in man?' What men have added to the existing Spirit (Intellect) is the ability to recognize the truth, Better Known as the Spirit of truth, or comforter that's what is added to man, it is the ability to recognize…[Read more]

Georg …. you say those that sin, will recieve death, Then you quote ” for the wage of sin is death; but the gift of GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord. Seeing all have sinned and come short of the Glory of GOD, them please tell us who is going to be burned up then. Is it us all because we all are sinners according to John , For…[Read more]

Isa 1:18…….The context does not agree with you assessment of Jesus not trying to preempt His death Brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

Nick…….That is true , but that not the point i am trying to make here, I am trying to show Isa 1:18 that Jesus recognized what men wanted to do and that was to worship Him as the one doing those things and Glorify HIM, and they did not see the it was GOD the FATHER who was doing them, But the disciples Know that it was GOD doing the works not…[Read more]

Chosenone……….Amen, Amen, Our Father is in the saving Business not destroying His Children or Creation, as some would love to see it , that is as long as they are not the ones being done away with. Because of their supposed (FREE WILL) Standing. They profess GOD but (DENY) the power there of. They discredit GOD the FATHER by taking to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2009,08:48)G, God has never said the lake of fire has been cancelled.Nick………..your taking something that was intended to be symbolically understood and applying it literally. That is a major Problem Here, The book of Revelations was symbolized look up the word (signified it) . God the Father is not in the…[Read more]

gorge………..Show me where it Say's the second death is final, I don't recall seen that in scripture. Death can be in may forms, How do you know the second death is not talking about those who have not put themselves to death in this life, and must do so in the next, in order to inherit eternal life. Those in the first resurrection have already…[Read more]

Georg………I understood you as speaking of the present time, Now seeing we are (ALL) sinners then who can say who will be eternally destroyed in any resurrection first or second, GOD is Able to SAVE (ALL) His Creation as scripture says. In fact it says He will save (ALL) his creation. Who is to say if anyone will continue to disobey in the…[Read more]

Nick……..And you should not adjust them to exclude YOURSELF ALSO. IMOpeace and love………………………gene

Kerwin……….> Amen to that, our present text has been greatly influenced by Trinitarian theologies, over centerys of transliterations and I believe without GOD Spirit guiding our minds, a person can not understand it. One just need to ask why do we have so many translations, Lexicons, different organizations and writings if it was properly…[Read more]

Isa 1:18………….Thanks for you response, and while I do agree with you that some of the text is harder to understand then other parts are, because there has been some tampering and mistranslations due to language differences and theological influencing over two thousand years. I still believe with GOD'S Spirit the true understanding can be…[Read more]

Isa 1:18…………..given enough words we can make anything out of a simple straightforward scripture brother. My question would be why do Trinitarians have to go to such extreme explanations of there beliefs. To get around simple plain scriptures, that even a child could understand. I have no problem just reading it as it is written. Jesus said…[Read more]

Nick…..what do you make of this, JOB 34:14-15..> If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his Spirit and his breath ; All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.Is that clear enough for you brother?peace and love……………………………..gene

thinker…..Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of Hosts I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is (NO) God. This should answer your question if there are any other GOD'S.  What is said here is the LORD the KING of Israel is (also) the LORD of Hosts His (Israels) redeemer. There is no mention of…[Read more]

Nick……….if the Spirit (intellect) is lent to us then it is GOD'S. SO GOD is in all life right? In fact GOD is the life in a person, without his presents we would all die, because He is life. IMOlove and peace…………………………….gene

LU…………Good point. Thinker if GOD gave the son Life then He obviously did not have it in himself until he recieved it. We also know the LORD GOD had no beginning or ending of days, and it is impossible for the LORD GOD to Die. If He were to die all life would cease to exist, because it says HE upholds (ALL) things by the POWER of HIS MIGHT,…[Read more]

thinker………Nick is right brother, Scripture shows Jesus' Authority is a temporary one, because he turns over rule to GOD the FATHER at the End of HIS reign and becomes subject to the FATHER also, as I Cor 15:28 says. love and peace………………gene

Adam………..Amen brother, you have correctly stated and answered the question.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………gene

Quote (Gene @ April 18 2009,15:17)Kerwin…….you have hit on the key, that might help us all come to a better understanding of How GOD is always present. remember it says when we die the Spirit goes back to him who gave it, so the spirit may be the key to God presents in all life, Now if we understand that Spirit is intellect or thought…[Read more]