Kerwin…..My point as that those who believe they are the saviors of them selves by their so-called free choices are in error, and tend to focus on themselves rather then on GOD'S work which He alone DOES in those He calls and choses. I can not really tell if you believe it is GOD (ALONE) that saves us or a combination of us and GOD, Or we build…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ April 30 2009,03:38)Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as we are called in one hope of your calling.             The Scripture disagrees with you, Gen. And since the Father is Spirit we know that it is His. In verse 20 it tells you not to grief the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God convicts you in all truth. So  …[Read more]

Nick…….The reason they are in front of the Throne they are the seven Powers (ELOHIM) composing (ONE) GOD. Now the LORD is the controller of all seven SPIRITS. And sends them out into the world as scripture says. They execute the ONE WILL of the ONE LORD. And God will be in all by those seven Spirits as He is in Jesus also, IMO.peace and…[Read more]

Kerwin ………Ten (I)'s in just four short sentences. The deception in you is your self positioning Here, Like this statement of your , ” (I) answered (but) in a way the (requires) you to think”. When in fact you just vesiculated the subject to get around it. That is a condescending statement, What makes you think you are able to require me to…[Read more]

Marty………And we ourselves are the temple of GOD also even as Jesus is. That is not unique to Jesus alone, all who have GOd Spirit in them are temples of GOD. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………gene

Kerwin,……I agree with that , only the question is who (CAUSES) you to try in the first place is that you decision or GOD”S . Jesus said (NO MAN) CAN COME unto me except the Father draw him. Did you just all by your self by (so-called FREE WILL CHOICE) decide to build a house , as many do, but in the end fail. or did GOD (CAUSE) you to SEEK…[Read more]

Kerwin …..I was asking you if that was your view not my view, Because you seem to think you save yourself by your so-called free will choices. I totally believe, unless the lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it; except the lord keep the city, the watchman wakes in vain. As i have alway said here, Then you change your position by…[Read more]

Kerwin…….So in you understanding , it is man who is the ultimate savior of himself , by (His) FREE WILL (non influenced choices) And GOD (creating) it in us is not true then, the bottom line is, it is up to the person himself right? Jer 13:23….Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are…[Read more]

Nick………..do you have scripture for that or is that just you logic or reasonings talking. Please enlighten us to where that is written.peace and love………………………..gene

Kerwin……Does God really (STRIVE) or does He just do it. You make it sound like GOD is trying but because of our own wills may not quite be able to do it unless we are a good student and can pick it up some How, Is this not the same as professing GOD but denying the POWER THERE OF> I have noticed something here with people who think they, By…[Read more]

Kerwin………On the one hand you say its of GOD , then you turn and say it by your own So-called FREE WILL Choice, So bottom line, whose work is it then your or GOD'S or Both, where do you really stand on this. Are you truly saved by GRACE and the (NOT) of YOURSELF or are you using GOD'S grace to exault yourself, Who is getting the credit for…[Read more]

Irene……Sister, you and others have (yet) to show me, any reason for GOd to Kill a son reberth Him and Kill Him again. As would to have had to happen if preexistence is true, whay perpose ould thar Show us, If GOd took a perfect Person and introduced Him into the world and He walked perfectly, would that show you or me anything (NO), but if He…[Read more]

Nick……….And thats you only reply, your failure to accept the truth is evident, you PRIDE gets the best of you brother. IMOpeace and love……………………………gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2009,14:09)G,Stop trying to do it all for God.Let God draw men to repentance. Adding our penniworth to the hows and whens is just a vanity.NIck………….your lame brain reasoning is both ignorant and makes no since. If any is adding their pennies worth its you. Not us.You need to repent of you stupidity lest GOD…[Read more]

Kerwin………So expanding your theology then, you believe GOD is irreverent to the repentance process , as to the internal process taking place in the mind of a person, He just put the truth out there and man on His own some how changes his own mind and accepts it without any internal working of GOD on the Heart and mind of that person right.…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ May 01 2009,02:45)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,19:23)Hi S, Why should we prefer the intellectual insights of men when God said at the Jordan  THIS IS MY SON?Is that the only time God delared that? Or to you propose to bind us to your limited intellect? We should not prefer your intellect over scripture!Seeking………Amen…[Read more]

Thinker……….You are so right, on what you posted brother, now if you would only continue and believe Jesus never preexisted before his berth other then in the plan of GOD, brother you would be totally on brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………………gene

NIck…….I do but you refuse to eat, Because you are still a Child and not able to eat Meat yet. Full of fear and trimbling and that prevents you from growing. Here is some meat try it and see if you can eat,….> Rom 8:15…> for you did not recieve a spirit of (bondage again for (FEAR), but ye did recieve a spirit of adoption in which we cry,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ April 30 2009,03:13)Nick………..God's (calling) is for all men to repent, (NOT) he is calling all to repent now. It is impossible for a man to repent on his own. “NO man (can) come unto me unless the FATHER DRAW HIM”. That is how he begins to work (by his GRACE with all he CALLS) Many are called not (ALL) Now. On the day of…[Read more]

Nick…..And where does the scriptures teach Jesus preexisted as some kind of demigod, or supper being of some kind? Again the kettle calling the pot black. IMOpeace and love…………………..gene