Nick……….. Interesting now where in scripture does it say that. Now if you believed Jesus, and understood that he said the WORDS (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE, you wouldn't say that. He also said, “you are now clean (BECAUSE) of the (WORDS) i have spoken unto you”. And again “being washed by the washing of the word”. The words of GOD are the…[Read more]

to all………being emerge into the death of Christ has (NOTHING) to do with water at all. It is the baptism of the (Spirit and fire) the baptism of Christ that counts and cleanses us by the washing of the WORD, not washing away of the dirt by water. We are united with GOD directly by HIS (GOD”S) Spirit, the same spirit that Jesus has in him.…[Read more]

Nick………..show ME one (SPECULATION), Its not my fault you don't know what a (Word) OR spirit IS. You denying what we say without any scripture back up is what is speculation if you ask me. Indoctrination in false teaching gives no one the right to accuse other of “speculations” because their understanding is not in line with theirs. Jodi…[Read more]

Nick……… Shouldn't you take your own advice, its not the doctrine its the personal attacks on our intelligence instead of addressing what we are saying, or the quotes we use,  by labeling us. Labeling what a person says is the same as attacking their person. If you can only accuse others by labeling what they say as  a Gnostic or some other l…[Read more]

Nick……….You have no idea what you are talking about, Just another ploy to evade the real issues here,and labeling and postering yourself as some know it all, Jodi and I and other post many scriptures to show what we are saying , But you take the privileged of just ignoring them and then making some ignorant commit that make no sense at all…[Read more]

Paladin…….Nick, does have a point, God was reconciling the world to himself through Jesus, This would be a good topic , to try to determin at what time did GOD give Jesus the words He spoke, was it at the very time He was speaking them, or before he spoke them. Was GOD truly present in Jesus (first person) or was He speaking before to Jesus.…[Read more]

Jodi………I never really understood what Jude was talking about concerning depute over the body of Moses before, until your explanation, wonderful Job Sis. It so encourages me to see the SPIRIT of GOD at work in brethren, It makes me want to jump for JOY. IMOpeace and Love to you and your…………………………..gene

Nick……….That a cop out, I as well as Jodi and many other give plenty of scriptures to explain what we are saying, its you ignorance and Arrogance the hinders the site. Jodi has Just posted a wonderful explanation about, what Jude was saying concerning the body of Moses and you come back with , “we are vaguely aware at times”, as a defense…[Read more]

Kerwin…….. The word LOGOS, came from the Greek word LOGIC, and it can even be applied that way in John 1:1 and it will make sense to any one who can understand a (word) is the expression of ones Logic or intellect. A word is simply an expression of Intellect and intellect is the LOGIC of that person, and of course GOD'S WORDS are LOGICAL and…[Read more]

Chosenone……….> you have stated it correctly. Look i see we both wear the same color tile, a (NICK) tile, pun intended Peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 07 2009,12:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2009,11:35)Hi Jodi, It is not for us to prove to you anything. Learn from scripture.Nick this forum is for debating and sharing our understanding. If people are going to say that the scriptures mean something or they want to say a word represents something, then they should back it…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ June 06 2009,01:38)And you don't see this as an attack? I certainly do not want to accuse you unjustly. It still looks like an attack to me. I gave you a simple example of where the commentators are wrong, with their use of “pros ton” followed by an accusative, and you totally ignore it, make no effort to deny, explain, or…[Read more]

Nick………. And what are we to do with your vain ideas Nick, Your words mark you own sufferings, i would be careful how i cast them on others if i were you. You will eat from your own plate after all it your (OWN) food you are putting on it. You may be more an enemy of Christ then you even begin to realize. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

thinker……….It also says we are the sons of GOD to, are we equal with GOD? 1 Jo 3:2 beloved, (NOW) are we the (sons) of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall shall see hime as he is…..> where is there any difference between Jesus and us at here.Thinker,…[Read more]

Paladin……….. Amen brother, You are sorely need Here brother a breath of fresh air. Please don't get discouraged by some of the indoctrinated brethren here, it can at times be quite a challenge. The apostate church has greatly infected the minds of many through it false doctrines and teachings. IMOPaladin…….I have a question i would like…[Read more]

Nick…………Don't blame Jesus for you lack of understanding. That your indoctrination that causing you not to see, Has nothing to do with Jesus' word at all. Just how you misperceive them thats all.

Nick………God is the one who tests us for our own good, and uses His powers to cause it and bring it about. Heb 12: 6….> For whom the LORD loves he chastens and scourges every son he receives. v 7..> If you endure chastening, God (deals with you) as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chastens not? V 8…> But if ye be without…[Read more]

Jodi………..Amen, Sis. And you didn't even use this…> Job 42:11 ” and they bemoaned him and comforted him over all the (EVIL) that the (LORD) had (BROUGHT) upon him,”WJ………that shows The LORD, took full responsibility for what happened to JOB. It was for JOB'S ultimate good IMO.WJ……….look at the end of the millennial of Jesus and…[Read more]

Chosenone………you have said it correctly brother, if only those here who preach and teach fear could understand it. But that takes the Spirit of Truth and many do not have it. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,16:34)G, There must be a bible somewhere that agrees with you. taoist perhaps?Nick………. My standard Kings James is just fine thanks. Your words only proves my point about arrogance. Labeling is a sign of ignorance (and) arrogance and insulting as you have just proved again. Only problem we can't give you a…[Read more]