Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2009,15:07)Quote (Gene @ July 25 2009,17:13)Thinker ………where does it say he was not the GOD of Ishmael. GOD is the GOD of ALL People, as Paul plainly said. Is he the God of the Jew only? No he is the GOD of (ALL) People , not the Jews or Israel only. You should Know this brother. IMOpeace and love…[Read more]

WJ………..Trinitarians do believe there in (ONE) GOD in three FORM right? GOD the Father , GOD the son and God the Spirit and they are homousious (GOD FROM GOD). My point in stating that was that trinitarians believe that GOD created everything and to my Knowledge they do If you recall i quoted where GOD said HE alone and BY HIMSELF created…[Read more]

Thinker…….Scripture says GOD does all things after the council of (His) own WILL, Jesus plainly showed He came (NOT) to do HIS WILL but the WILL of HIM who sent HIM. This show He is under the authority of a higher source them himself. Can't you even get that? GOD the FATHER is the ONLY SOVEREIGN GOD, no one else is. ONLY (HIS) Will will be…[Read more]

Thinker………..All thing on this earth are from Heaven. Not Just Jesus. That statement does not move Jesus away from Us and give him Preexistence status at all. Jesus told Pilot. WE are all foreknown by GOD and Predestined by HIM as Scripture says.” for whom he foreknew He also justified and them who HE justified He also sanctified to be…[Read more]

thinker……….Sarah never ask Abraham to cast Ishmael out of any thing , Sharh just wanted Hagar to leave because She was envious of Hagar having Abraham's offspring and Her not having any. The covenant had nothing to do with it. Show scripture where (Sarah) ask Abraham to CAST Ishmael out of any (COVENANT). God told Abraham (HE) would…[Read more]

Thinker………No where do andy scripture say GOD is three triune anythings. But Scripture and Jesus does say, that there is (ONLY) (ONE) TRUE GOD> do you need me to quote it to you again even though i have quoted then many, many. many times. When are you going to start believing what Jesus and scripture and GOD HIMSELF Says. This may help you ,…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,19:47)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 25 2009,13:41)Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,11:56)Quote (Gene @ July 25 2009,08:57)Thinker……….Jesus said to Prey like this, OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN (do you see Jesus who is in heaven here), and again He told His disciples when they pray to go in their closet and shut…[Read more]

Paladin………I totally agree with you on this brother. Jesus was foreordained but was brought into existence at His berth. AS Peter said. He was foreordained (BUT) was Manifested in our time. Foreordained does not equate to (a Preexistent begin). Jeremiah and Cyrus were both foreordained and yet did not exist till they were born as well as John…[Read more]

TC 27………………if Jesus is sovereign then why did he say he came (NOT) to do His will but the will of HIM who Sent HIM. Sounds to me like the one who sent him is the one who is sovereign not Him. Or have you forgot he said He could do nothing on His own initiative, but what soever he see the FATHER do. And again saying It is not I who do…[Read more]

Thinker ………where does it say he was not the GOD of Ishmael. GOD is the GOD of ALL People, as Paul plainly said. Is he the God of the Jew only? No he is the GOD of (ALL) People , not the Jews or Israel only. You should Know this brother. IMOpeace and love …………………gene

thinker……….I would not criticize Islam when Trinitarians are even more wrong, at least they believe on only (ONE) GOD. which is more then i can say for Trinitarians, brother.peace and love……………………gene

thinker ……….the elementary teachings (OF) Christ means (ABOUT Christ) is what is being talked about here not the teachings of Christ but about HIM. They are elementary because they are first step teachings, basic ones. Check out the word (OF). Again if you would not forget what Jesus and GOD the Fathers has said in the past you could easily…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 26 2009,04:46)Quote (Gene @ July 26 2009,04:35)Thinker………No brother their ONE Shepard , but he is (NOT) the owner of the Sheep , there is only (ONE) owner and that is GOD the Father. The Father has put us in the custody of Jesus, it is very much like the analogy of the vine, the vine is part of the branches, but the…[Read more]

Thinker…….Where did i say the FATHER is the Shepard, what i said was the FATHER is the Owner of the Sheep and Jesus is the Shepard, He is the servant of GOD do you need scripture that shows that also,  see what confusion Trinitarian Ideologies brings, you can't even read what i wrote correctly brother, Cast of from you that false teaching and…[Read more]

Thinker………No brother their ONE Shepard , but he is (NOT) the owner of the Sheep , there is only (ONE) owner and that is GOD the Father. The Father has put us in the custody of Jesus, it is very much like the analogy of the vine, the vine is part of the branches, but the life water (spirit) is given by one (the FATHER) and ministers to both…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,05:52)Quote (Gene @ July 24 2009,04:49)Thinker………..IN AGREEMENT, NOT ONE AND THE SAME BEING. God was (IN) Jesus through (HIS) Spirit, and that does not make Jesus GOD, no more then it makes Us GOD who have His Spirit in them. GOD'S Spirit in us causes us to (IMAGE) HIM (Not) be HIM,  Come on thinker dump…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,20:07)Quote (Gene @ July 24 2009,15:50)Thinker…………Son of man is a general term for a decedent of  Man. It is not distinct for Jesus (ONLY), GOD called Ezekiel Son of Man also. Thinker, brother quite trying to separate Jesus from US and our likeness, Jesus is a son of man just like you and i. We are not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,13:30)G,You may find that when you reach the end of the journey but meantime keep your boots on.Walk while the light is with you.Abide in scriptureNick……….I agree with that also. peace and love ………………..gene

Thinker………..Don't get stuck in the mud, the sum of the word is what counts, not some little statement that can be taken or turned to mean what you or others want it to mean. Jesus plainly said (FOR THOU ART THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD). Study each and every word in that statement and bingo your problem is solved, (Hear O Israel the LORD our GOD is…[Read more]

JC…………….lets not forget the rest of the verse, and these three agree (IN) ONE. Because they are one and the same, Where do you see Jesus mentioned there. Word is (NOT) a Person it is the expression of INTELLECT OR SPIRIT OF THE ONE GOD. peace and love……………………gene