Adam…..Correct brother, the NT, has over time been corrupted,  even the early speakers were corrupting them.  Like the Gnostic’s for instance. That is exactly why the apostle Paul said,  the Bereans, were more  noble then those in Tessalonica , because they searched the scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing was true or not, and re…[Read more]

Mike….Even if you were to render it as present tense ,  it still could be understood as Jesus exists presently,  (in importance ), before Abraham did or does,  right? But no texts that i have ever seen  says Jesus was  “alive”,  before Abraham was.

Many try to  force the text to say that, but it not written  that way any where, and remembe…[Read more]

Mike…..there is not a single scripture that “says” Jesus “existed before Abraham ” not one.  Lets just start with that first,  Then we can move on to the “root and offspring” part . Which i believes is saying “root” of the family linage of Jesse, but the direct “offspring ” of David.  So he is both from the root and is the offspring . He could…[Read more]

To all…..God’s “WORD” and GOD , are one and the same PERSON and being. NO ONE IS GOD’S WORD, BUT GOD HIMSELF, never was any nor ever will be either.

If his “words” abides “in” you then God is “in” you and you are “in” him . God and his words are Spirit,

“Now if the Spirit of him that raised Jesus from the dead dwell “IN”  you, he that raise…[Read more]

Proclaimer……the word of God, “came into existence”,  what was that word, it was the “prophesied”, word of God, given through the prophets,  it came to pass, it was the human being Jesus Christ, get it? , there is no word itself that could ever become flesh, that is impossible for that to happen, because words are Spirit not flesh and bloo…[Read more]

Carmel……. you are trying to make it sound like Jesus was saying he was “alive” before Abraham was,  you have one problem the word “alive” is not there.
Don’t you think that if Jesus wanted them to believe he meant “alive” he would specifically have said that?

Jesus said that Abraham  looked “forward” to see his day  and saw it, and was glad.,…[Read more]

Berean…….I am beginning to believe even if Jesus himself told you, that he himself wasn’t the word, you wouldn’t believe him either.  Your indoctrinated into fallen religious teachings, and are stuck and can’t break free. SAD

peace and love to you and yours………gene

Mike…..True it doesn’t say that JESUS did not preexist his birth, but plenty texts say he was prophesied to be born as a child to us,  a son has been given us,   Right?  No one text anywhere say a “PREEXISTING ” being has been “morphed” into a human body that i know of at least.
Also we do have scripture that calls him a “second” Adam.  So if he…[Read more]

Mike…….Very, very good brother,  Berean needs to break his faith in false trinitarian teachers  and start to think, with his own mind guided by the Spirit of God.

Berean, what we are telling you is solid truth brother.

peace and love to you and yours………gene

Mike. Jesus was indeed the beginning of a new creation in mankind, but was not even alive during at the time of the creation,  Jesus is a type a pro-type of the new man, who had the fullness God’s Spirit  “in” him , the first human from mankind, the first of mankind to be resurrected from the dead, the first “man” to receive eternal life. We nee…[Read more]

Adam….Again you are absolutely right brother,  all true believers and scholars know that there is no activity of Jesus at all mentioned in the Old Testament at all.  As you said Christianity made our “only” true God,  a binity, trinity,  ect,  Jesus himself only recognized one true God, saying in prayer,  “this is eternal life, that they might…[Read more]

Proclaimer….but the problem is “inflation”.  When money is not tide to some kid of standard of value. It creates “inflation” , inflation over here is beginning to escalate at an alarming  rate.  Saving accounts are eroding.  Prices of food and other things are on the rise,  everything is moving up and up in prices, home just a year ago are up 20…[Read more]

Adam….So glad to hear from you again brother.  I and I hope all here,  will pray for you and your family, and the nation of India.

Adam, your good and sound reasoning has always been a blessing to us all here  brother, I know you are a very Bessey person, but try going in on our bible dissuasions more if you have time brother, miss yo…[Read more]

Carmel…….First and foremost the name Jesus does not eve appear any where in those scriptures a all.  So you as usual,  force the text,  trying to make it say what in fact it is not saying or even implying.  Thats typical for you, everyone here should know that by now. You quote a text and not only change the wording but the context as wel…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….I saw that on you tube, it is very interesting.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Carmel…..Point is not that you believe in Jesus, it’s in what way do you believe in him.
you believe he is your God, a PREEXISTING God, who “morphed” himself into a human body.  Thats not the Jesus i believe in.

I believe in a man Jesus who did not “preexist” as any kind of being until his birth on this earth, a man who came from the “loi…[Read more]

Carmel…..Is that the right hand that said “the son of man can do “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF? 

And also said “Greater works then I do , you shall do”.

Jesus never said or acted as a God,  ever, in-fact  he “clearly” said  our God was his God , our Father was his Father.   He is exactly in every was as we are a 100% pure human being. Who came into hi…[Read more]

Carmel……The reason you don’t have a “personal” relationship with God the Father,  is because you don’t believe he exists, you have replaced him with, the “MAN” Jesus.  2ths2.  But what does scripture say,

Heb 11: 5 ……But without “faith” it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God “must believe that he is” and he is a rewarder…[Read more]

Carmel….. Jesus did every thing The only true God told him to do, so that makes him a servant of “his God, and “OUR” God, his Father and “OUR” Father”.  according to Jesus, we have the exact same relationship with the Father, who is both our God ,as he does.

The true question here is why do yo people never stop trying to make Jesus c…[Read more]