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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Berean……Ephraim and Manasseh make up Joseph’s double portion in Israel, given him by his firstborn birthright given By God. Read the blessings Jacob placed on the tribe of Joseph.
Gen 48: 16-22….Shows clearly the name of “Israel” is on Ephraim and Manasseh, they were the double portion given above the rest of the tribes of ISRAEL, Joseph…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam………Luke 14:26….If “anyone” come to me and “hate” not his father, mother, and his wife and children , and breathen and sister, yea and his own “LIFE” ALSO, he cannot be my disciple. Jesus never said that we are to “hate” anyone “themselves” he said we are to hate the “lives they and we lived”, not them, themselves. Many make the assumpti…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Berean……….Here is why I believe what Jesus told us, ‘ the words I am telling you are “NOT”, my words , but the words of, him ( God the Father) that sent me”. NOT because I think he is some kind of a God or the Essenes of another God . I believe he has a GOD, AND IT IS THE EXACT SAME GOD AS MINE, and he is not, my Heavenly Father, nor is he my…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
All……..I believe the problem exists in the meaning of the word God itself. When people try to make that word out to be a “person”, instead of what the words “itself” actually means, then comes in the confusions.
let’s look at what the original word for God actually meant, The original word was first found in the Hebrew language, as a [Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Danny……..Adam is not ‘attacking” anyone, He is bringing out what some “critical” textual scholars have derived from our scripture text’s that we have in possession and how they can be differently interpreted in there original language. let’s try to keep this about the posts not about the person who is posting it, especially if the person is on…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam….The real question is , does Berean actually believe that what he quoted, seeing he believes Jesus is his God, and a ‘PREEXISTING’ Jesus, who created everything. Many trinitarians quote scriptures, and what Jesus said, but few it seems “actually” believe him and what he said. IMO
peace and love to you and yours Adam……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam…..That was good for incite on how the idea of a resurrection from the grave was originally introduced into our scriptures. I also believe in a resurrection of the complete “Soul”, “our flesh body with the Spirit of life in it”, just as it was originally created by God the Father in the first place . And of course the kingdom of Isr…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam…..I believe your post have some possibilities, but the whole issue I have with it is the idea it is not talking about dead bodies, even David was dead at that time, and would have to have a new body in order to regain again over Israel. And all those dead Israelites would need new bodies also in order to stand on their feet again. I see n…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam….Actually it doesn’t, brother, because the Hebrew bible does contain a large section on the resurrection of Flesh bodies from the grave. Please read Ezk 37: 1-14, that whole chapter shows clearly there is a physical resurrection from the gave that will take place for “the whole house of Israel”.
Adam also if you care to while you are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam, how do they Handel the scripture that says, God would not suffer his Holy ones “body” to see corruption in the Grave. Does that not show a resurrection of a non decomposed human body. And also prove the person (his holy one) was indeed, put to death, How is that explained away by the Jews.
peace and love to you and yours Adam………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam…..I believe wisdom is one of the seven spirits of God, through which he uses in his creating process. It always existed in the beginning just as the rest of the Seven Spirits of God also did, wisdom is just one of the attributes of God, probably the most important, and is easily seem in all of God’s whole creation. Wisdom being a Spir…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam…..I believe wisdom is one of the seven spirits of God, through which he uses in his creating process. It always existed in the beginning just as the rest of the Seven Spirits of God also did, wisdom is just one of the attributes of God, probably the most important, and is easily seem in all of God’s whole creation. Wisdom being a Spir…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Proclaimer….what I see is, you and others here, Do not understand the Greek word “dia” just that simple . You also don’t believe what God the Father himself said, in Isaiah. That he by “himself” and “alone” did it, SEEMS YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE WORDS, “ALONE AND BY MYSELF”. Neither do you believe what Genesis one says about our creation…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Berean……….it’s interesting how you people see the words ‘Jesus’ written there, but then again you people put all kinds of words in our scriptures and even contradict Jesus” very own written words like when he said in prayer to God the Father, “that they might know you “THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD”, AND the scripture that says , “but un to us the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Proclaimer….Jesus was the finished ‘prototype’ of God the fathers human creation the “finished” product for all his “human” creation. We are all in a developing process, And Jesus is the first human being to achieve that Goal, which God had in mind for his whole human creation in the beginning, remember, Jesus said “you must be born again”.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 9 months ago
Danny…..the word (aligned) above . Should be (avenge) , sorry for the misspell. Danny remember a lot of the real scholars work from the actual documents found over the years, rather then religious opinions. There are really miss spelled, miss quoted, and miss translated words written in our present translations. Remember what Jesus said, <…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 9 months ago
Danny…..Adam is just showing us possible translation discrepancies in our texts, written by different scholars, he is not saying that is his “own” views . He is just presenting them. I personally have also found discrepancies in our text years ago.
Here is an example, Years ago I was reading the parable of the unjust Judge. Jesus said the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam……I completely agree with you , it is his own, trinitarian, ideology, taught to him by the fallen Catholic and Protestant churches, over many years. I personally never heard of so many made up teachings in my life then what Carmel says. He seems to not even quote a single scripture without changing or adding thoughts not even mentioned i…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 9 months ago
Adam……There are many things Jesus said that the OT did not say and even spoke against some thing written in it. Things like Divorces, And lusting for women (married women) like , “whosoever looks upon a women to lust after he , commits adulatory with her in his heart”, and things like “you have heard it said , but I say unto you”. Jesus c…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 9 months ago
Mike….Couldn’t the word “taste ” Apply to the actual word meaning to experience the process of dying? But say a person simply is suddenly taken by God , snatched from their body by God, they could still be dead or without consciousness and not even know it, right? I believe that happened to Stephen, when he was being stoned, I believe God…[Read more]
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