Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 20 2009,11:14)Quote (Gene @ Nov. 20 2009,04:14)Adam………….Beware of the leaven of the Jews, they have a hatred for Paul , I know this from personal experience with them. Paul does not disagree with Jesus and Had himself been Schooled in the LAW by a well know teacher of His day, He fully knew their teachings and…[Read more]

Nick……..Where doe it say Adam rebelled against GOD, GOD did not accuse them of sinning did He.  Remember Adam and Eves eyes were both closed at the time of the disobedient act. Their eyes were not opened till after the partook of the Fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. I believe GOD know all along Adam and eve would eat of the forbidden…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Nov. 19 2009,06:12)My primary stand centers around the overall plan of God as in clear in scripture. Many think only of the redemption work of Christ as the plan of God. It is certainly part of the plan but just redeeming man from sin is not the end.Adam and Eve were not in need of redemption, so one must ask what was God’s o…[Read more]

DK………Sorry for the errors i have edited and corrected the spelling and add so to it. peace and love to you and yours………………gene

DK…..The subject  Paul is addressing is not if we should keep the commandments or not it is (HOW) we keep them , is it like a slave who is (forced) to obey his master, or is it through a desire to do right by the effectual working of the Spirit of GOD. For the Gentiles who have (NOT) the LAW, but do the things contained in them, are showing the…[Read more]

Nick…….. A better question is why don't you believe GOD is calling them. I assume we are talking to people who are seeking a true relationship with our Lord Jesus and Our Father, GOD, so why not speak the truth to them. Those who are not call or are called, how do we know, are we to (presume) they are not? NO we are to (presume) they (ALL)…[Read more]

terrarica………Law is the (enforcement) of the covenant The ten commandments were turned into LAW by the act of enforcement, and attached to the covenant, The commandment became the terms of the covenant. And the Law added to it became its enforcement. Law is (NOT) law without enforcement. Because it would have no power unless it was enforced.…[Read more]

terraricca………Not sure of what all you are trying to say, How ever Jesus Plainly said (NO) man (CAN) come unto me unless the father draw Him. He even told his disciples that they did (NOT) choose Him but he chose them. If man by his on so-called “FREE WILL” could chose the right way by himself , which history clearly show he never did, then…[Read more]

Adam…….What do you do with Dan 9:24-26 and remember the WORD Messiah means (anointed one) and the word Christ means the same Christos or Anointed same meaning. Israel had many Messiahs or anointed ones in there History Like Moses and others, Jesus was indeed and anointed Person and when He returns he still will be. Jesus has yet to fulfill…[Read more]

martian ……..would like you and CT..to post a clear and concise view of your reasons for not believing in the Preexistence of Jesus again , and try to take in consideration all sound reasons for not believing in it and how that doctrine goes against the wok and Purpose of GOD. These two Doctrines really do destory truth and Hope for millions…[Read more]

CT and terrarccia……………..The more we filter the waters the clear the water becomes. But there is a point where the dross reaches the top and must be scraped off to reveal the pure gold. There is a point where you need to turn off the fire lest you burn up the Gold with the dross. God's Laws are considered Judgments as a FIRE, and there is…[Read more]

martian……it's been kicked around so much everyone seems to have exhausted themselves on the subject. There appears to be three camps. One believes in the Trinity and Preexistence, another does not believe in the Trinity but believes in the Preexistence of Jesus, while another does not believe in any Trinity or Preexistence Doctrine, I am in…[Read more]

To All…..” I saw the Lord descending from mount Paran with ten thousands of (HIS SAINTS) to execute Judgment (IN) the EARTH and to (CONVINCE) all the ungodly of their ungodly deed which they have ungodly committed. Jack you are wrong on this one. IMOgene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,05:16)G, Paul was cleansed and washed and anointed. Yet sin continued to dwell in his mortal frame.Earth and it's god own the flesh and death frees us.Nick…….That is exactly what i am saying, as long as we are in these Bodies we are (NOT) completely set Free from sin , that is why we still need the blood of…[Read more]

TK………..Everything you said is a salvation (caused) by GOD, (OUR) so-called FREE WILL Choices had nothing to do with it. Jesus plainly said (NO) Man (CAN) come unto me unless the FATHER (draw) Him. GOD puts His commandments into US He writes them on our Hearts through the operation of (HIS) Spirit, we do not Chose to be saved we are chosen to…[Read more]

terraricca………..All those you listed are (INFLUENCED) Desires, nothing (FREE) about it. The word (FREE) means free of (any) influence , What you are doing is chosing from what you want to do and what you want to do is what (INFLUENCED) YOU Choice. That is why it says we are saved be (GRACE) (God's influencing on the heart) this influence of…[Read more]

DB……..why do you have a problem with Jesus really dieing, and GOD raising him from the dead as scripture say He did. Jesus himself said he was dead, don't you believe His own words. Does this have something to do with your Muslim Faith?gene

DB……….Jesus himself said he was dead, and was brought back to life. If he did not really die then Jesus lied when He said he was dead. “the dead know nothing in the day they die their thoughts parish. Jesus was as dead as dead could be, and it was GOD the father who raised him from that dead state. Jesus did not raise himself , how could he…[Read more]

Kerwin………All the self righteous like to think they are righteous by their so called (FREE WILL) choices and it supports their PRIDE. They would naturally say people who quote what John said was supporting sin, but if you notice that is no what I or anyone else has said as far as i Know, by quoting Johns words. You present Paul as saying He…[Read more]

martian….>Well said brother……………peace and love to you and yours……………..gene