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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 21 2009,05:48)Gene said: Quote Thinker ……..When and where have i ever said we are to be gods, that is not what i have ever said, My post does not even suggested that at all. It is your assumption because you Believe Jesus is A GOD,Gene,You have me confused wit t8 and Kathi. They believe that Jesus is a God. I believe…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
To All……….”there is ONE GOD and ONE Mediator between MAN and GOD the (MAN) Jesus Christ”. Jesus set us and example to WORSHIP the FATHER, the same GOD He WORSHIPED.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Gnosticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
WJ………..It's not about ME, it's about the love of the TRUTH, which you trinitarians have twisted and rejected. No one has to believe anything i say if they can not find it in scripture, that would be foolish for them to do that. It's not about me OR YOU, its about the TRUTH of what is written in Scriptures. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker ………Again another lie where have i (VEHEMENTLY) Denied Jesus was not our savior, He was GOD”S SACRIFICE for the SINS of the WORLD. I have never said different. YOU must try harder not to LIE about what someone has said. Please post where I (VEHEMENTLY) Denied Jesus was our Savior if you can? Your false accusations are not of GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker ……..When and where have i ever said we are to be gods, that is not what i have ever said, My post does not even suggested that at all. It is your assumption because you Believe Jesus is A GOD, WE do NOT Believe Jesus is a GOD, but a HUMAN BEING, So from an HUMAN BEING stand point were are able to become (EXACTLY) as HE IS, you assume…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Every Knee Shall Bow And Confess to God! in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Ed J………..welcome to my world, you can present the truth as clear as a crystal and they (trinitarians) will not get it. When God sends a deluding Spirit (intellect) they will believe and teach (THE LIE) and that LIE is that JESUS is A GOD> 2Ths 2. gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
thinker…….what i meant by that was (YOUR) presentation of a resent finding that you grab as scripture when in fact they are just some fragments found . You eagerness to (TRY) to prove Jesus is A GOD, only shows how you have no real proof so you are franticly looking for something to support you false assumptions. Jesus is and alway was a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
thinker………So you are really (NOT) a Brother to Jesus as scripture say we are, and we are not Joint heirs with Him as scripture says we are. And He is not the firstborn OF MANY BROTHERS as scripture says we are. It is amazing how you trinitarians twist scripture to present Jesus as A GOD, separate from our likeness, and NOT really one of US…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Gnosticism in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick……..And what of the (SPIRIT of TRUTH) that gives meaning to scriptures we read , anyone can Parrot scripture but few truly understand them. Fact is there is no unity where the SPIRIT of The LORD in not there. All who have the Spirit of GOD, understand the WORD of GOD, because the SPIRIT reveals it unto them. ALL who are of GOD are taught…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
U……….I hope you don't get discouraged by some of the people we have on Here, What you have quoted has been quoted to them hundreds of times but you will find they will simply ignore it and go on as if it never existed in scriptures, But we must remember in 2Ths2 It say GOD would send them a strong deluding Spirit (intellect) that they would…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick………Wrong Child berth is a berth of WATER, a Child comes forth when a womens water Breaks. Jesus was simply saying to Nicodemus you must be Born (of) WATER as he was already (AND) SPIRIT. TWO BERTHS , that had nothing to do with water baptism as you assume it does.Where does scripture say “DEMONS” HATE WATER, nor have i read where a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Thinker ……..Please post where i said not to to believe in scripture are you becoming a false accuser like NICK and WJ> I recall saying there were some errors in the texts we now have , but where did i say we are not to believe in them all. I have just quoted to you what Jesus said and YOU still do not believe. And your assumption that J…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,10:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2009,15:13)G, Are you quoting scripture? But you told us not to rely on it?Agreed!Gene seems to think that the Spirit of God has shown only him what is true while he claims that scriptures prove his points. But he cannot refute our belief with scriptures but just make empty…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 20 2009,07:13)G, Are you quoting scripture? But you told us not to rely on it?Nick……..I quote scripture all the time, but you as well as others fail to acknowledge it. But some scriptures have been corrupted that is why we have so many different Bibles and Churches because they can't agree with each other. I have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 8 months ago
U…………Welcome…..> you are right Jesus is subject to the FATHER in all things both Now and in the future, We honor Him and his Position our FATHER GOD has given HIM in the Family of GOD. He is the Firstborn from mankind of many brothers and sisters. He is the Head of the House of God, subject only to the Father. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Every Knee Shall Bow And Confess to God! in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 19 2009,21:53)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2009,00:00)hi WJI will invite everyone who is victorious to sit with me on my throne, “just as I was victorious and sat with my Father on his throne”. Rev 3:21 NLTyou know the true meaning of this verse is this;that Christ received from God the father all the powers for is task and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic 10 commandments; were they done away with? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
942767…………Not sure of your point , because i believe what you wrote . Except I believe that the Judgment is (NOW) being carried out on the HOUSE of GOD. “knowing this Fiery Trial that has tried you as if some strange then has happened unto you”. IMO
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 16 years, 8 months ago
Nick………many are water baptized and have not the Spirit of GOD. Water Baptism has (NO) rebirth powers, only Jesus' baptism of Holy Spirit does. Water makes you wet, HOLY SPIRIT rebirths you. When Jesus said to Nicodemus You must be born of water (AS we are BORN now) (AND) SPIRIT. He was telling him basically as you are born of water (NOW) we…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 16 years, 8 months ago
peace2all…………….Jesus came to John to be baptized by him and what did he say, “I have Need to Be Baptized by YOU. Now why did John say that, Because before this all happened John said I indeed Baptize with (WATER) but he who comes after will (BAPTIZE WITH SPIRIT AND FIRE), Now do you see why John said what He did to Jesus. The Baptism of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Irene…..I don't want to change you, believe as you will, but there are more the Me and Kerwin , who do not believe Jesus Preexisted before his berth here, CON, matian, Terriccia, Jodi Lee, Mandy, Kerwin, myself, and several others. You have yet to produce ONE scripture or explanation for GOD to have used a (PREEXISTING) Being Kill Him and…[Read more]
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