t………Why should you say it is folly that John should be talking about GOD the FATHER, Jesus certainly did most of the time. The FATHER with HIS own WORDS were in (THE) (Definite article)  Beginning. And because there is no word saying what beginning we must conclude it is the Beginning of (ALL THINGS). God was (IN) Jesus via HIS WORDS…[Read more]

T………my post had nothing to do with what you have committed about, My question to you was because it say in the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD (WAS) GOD, does that mean it is talking the word coming into a beginning at some time in history (NO) it does not mean that you are giving it you personal meaning, and that is my POINT here.…[Read more]

t……..Paul as far as i am concerned was a great teacher an a apostle of Jesus Christ. I agree with Peter completely, some of Paul's writings are hard to understand and men do twist them to their own destruction, but if we study them with the Spirit of GOD leading us they all make excellent sense, and do establish us in the faith. He even said…[Read more]

Nick……….WRONG GOD the FATHER gives us understanding and Without HIS SPIRIT guiding US , Scriptures can only be PARROTED by people. With all your getting get (understanding). SEEK, ASK, KNOCK and maybe GOD will GIVE it to YOU. Falsely accusing brethren is a sin. IMO

t………..you don't have to do anything if you don't want to, i only ask a question for your reason that the word of GOD had a beginning. No point getting upset about it. Pleas post why you believe the word mentioned in JOHN had a beginning. Because it does (NOT) say the WORD HAD A BEGINNING> It say in the beginning the word was with GOD and was…[Read more]

t……….But that is the point i posted , because the word was (IN) the Beginning as GOD was also, is not saying the word (HAD) a beginning , you are saying that not the text. Can we at least agree on this? GOD always existed and His words existed with him. peace and love………….gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 05 2010,07:40)G,You advised TT not to rely on scripture. You did not have to tell us you do not rely on scripture as what you say reveals that problem.Nick……….NO Where did i tell thinker he could not rely on scriptures, I said he should not (ONLY) rely on them , he need GOD SPIRIT to guide HIM in understanding them…[Read more]

NIck………They do reflect Scripture but you simply don't understand the mean of the word WORD or you would have no problem with what i have posted. As far as the understanding I have been give you have no idea of it, So your opinions is just that an opinion, which should mean nothing to none if us.  Post proof not you self opinions with…[Read more]

uoflfan……..Jesus and Us did come from GOD, but the WORD of GOD CAME FROM GOD, NOT Jesus or US. WE as Jesus can quote (HIS) WORDS if they are (IN) US as they WERE (IN) JESUS> IMO

Nick…That is a lie i have (NEVER) told anyone not to accept scriptures. Pure hog wash. It is the understanding of them that counts, not just the words written. And i have (NEVER) BOASTED in my knowledge of GOD WORDS. Pure Garbage, from the mouth of a prideful man. Where did (I) add ideas about intellect to scripture > A WORD is the EXPRESSION…[Read more]

t……Where do it say the word had a beginning, because it say the word (was in the beginning) does not say it (had) a beginning.So please post your next proof that the word itself actually became a flesh. And you still have not disproved any of what i have written about it. IMO

Nick……….I rely on scriptures far more then you do, and more important I understand what they are saying. What about you, how much do you understand of what you read in scriptures? Your words prove your arrogance You neither know Me nor my Heart, just mouthing off is all you seem to be good at. IMO

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,06:46)geneselective hearing and selective seeing well is this not corrupt thinking???t……… WE all have selective Hearing to a point, Post it then instead of just making accusations prove what you are saying , are you becoming like Nick now and just making accusation because something disagrees with your…[Read more]

Nick……..You have been dogging me ever sense i have came on this site, as well as you have many others Here, pushing your accusation off on many of us here, and you have the nerve to say you are not proud and arrogant, surely you jest. You say we say things we are not even saying of referencing, and when ask to post Scriptures to the contrary…[Read more]

NIck………if the shoe fits wear it. if not don't worry about it. When have i (BOASTED) of MY “humility”. Another (FALSE) accusation , now that is a odd concept. It is not I who judge you your own mouth does that , i am just bringing it to your attention. Seems you talk out of both sides of your mouth Nick. When have you taken on the attribute…[Read more]

terraricca ……That is all you have to do is Post where in scripture i and wrong thats all, post your scriptures instead of accusing me of something you can prove. POST THE SCRIPTURES. Show US where i removed words that do not reflect my view. If Jesus said the word He spoke were (NOT) his Words , then a simple question would be HOW COULD HIS…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2010,06:01)Geneyou confusing the confused but not me,you are  totally twisting the scriptures,you placing your own words of views to prove your personal point.terraricca………where have i twisted the word at, please be specific as to what you are referring to.peace and love………..gene

thinker………Right like it say the word is JESUS in JOHN 1:1 right? John just forgot how to spell Jesus in John 1:1 so you trinitarians have to show Him and Us His error in spelling. And have you (EVER) seen a WORD BE FLESH : Let me answer that (NO) and neither has anyone else seen a flesh word. The word (who is GOD) CAME to be (IN) Jesus ,…[Read more]

thinker………So now your saying, i am saying that the FATHER had no PART, (WRONG) more the opposite It (WAS) the FATHER (IN) Christ reconciling the WORLD to HIMSELF. Is there on end to you Trinitarians twisting what is said . Jesus did (BECOME) the source to all who OBEY HIM , that is because HE Obeyed GOD who sent HIM. Why do you TRINITARIANS…[Read more]

Ang………..Sorry forgot to welcome you to the site.peace and love to you and yours……………..gene