Nick…..get off this intellect crap. We are talking about an issue here , if you can not (INTELLIGENTLY) engage us then Keep your worthless opinions to yourself OK. I ask you to read what was being discussed (HAVE YOU YET), if not, then just don't say anything if that is possible for you to do. IMO

WJ………Then where it says (WE) are (NOW) SONS OF THE LIVING GOD, does that mean we are GOD'S too?. No saying you are a sonof GOD does (NOT) make you A GOD, No matter what the Jews though Jesus was saying , it is obivious he was not saying He was a GOD there are (MANY) sons of GOD, as scripture shows, if you want proof i can give it to you. But…[Read more]

Terraricca……you are right on this. I see it that way to, GOD full well knew and intended us to Experience GOOD and EVIL, because one describes the other and without having some understanding of that we would alway be just ignorant beings. I am not saying He enjoys watching us go through this process, but i do believe He feels it necessary for…[Read more]

To All………..> Phi 3:4..> Although I could have confidence in the flesh. If anyone thinks he can place confidence in the flesh, I have more reason to think so. 5..> Having been circumcised on the eighth day, I am of the nation of Israel, from the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, As far as the law was concern i was a Pharisee. 6..> As…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 15 2010,16:39)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2010,11:55)Chosenoneyou should ask the question “was all the misery what this world have seen, worth it to pay??Eph.1:7-11   …7 in Whom we are having the deliverance through His blood, the forgiveness of offenses in accord with the riches of His grace,8 which He lavishes on us;…[Read more]

Nick………Intellect rules over blind ignorance every time. IMONick quit skirting the issue go and read the Prophesy of Issiah from GOD to King Ahaz, and come back and lets discuss it.I believe Adam does have a valid point, check it out first before you make an evaluation OK , you think you can do that for a change. This is no a salvation…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2010,12:18)hi geneif Mary is not a true maiden (virgin) this will make what out the angel Annunciation and what would it do to the Holiness of God recieving the offerings of Christ body as the sacrifices,and in those condition could he be the son of God….I do believe that you have not the spirit, it seems you do not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2010,12:23)hi gene DRAW goes two ways that is my point ,and it seems you did not understand it ,this is why you did not understand what i try to say to you,you are one sided viewer.terraricca………You are talking about two different scriptures using the word draw, and if you are trying to show Jesus will (not) draw…[Read more]

Terraricca…………> if your talking about the ONLY ROCK Being GOD, i can list about 30 scriptures that show that, if you need it. The ROCK that Jesus was going to build the Church on WAS GOD the FATHER and HIS ability to GET inside the Head of People and REVEAL the TRUTH Just as He did Jesus. Don't know what exactly you want me to respond to…[Read more]

Terraricca………What is it you want to know about the word DRAW, i have explained it, in GREEK it's DRAG. What other question do you have , I have quoted the Scripture completely, and is that is not good enough, Whats your question?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:34)G, What evidence do you have of the text being changed or does it just not align with your intellect-none? Let scripture rule and reform your wayward intellect.Nick…….The two accounts in Mat1:16…> And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, the mother of Jesus who is called Christ.Luk 4:23 And Jesus…[Read more]

terraricca……….No one here is questing the Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of GOD. So your implying thing that are not even being talked about is ridiculous, the question was about the “virgin” berth and the Immaculate conception and involves nothing else, so you continually trying to draw it out into something not even being dealt with is…[Read more]

Kerwin….. My point was that the word used in the text does not mean a virigin, it means a young women or maiden, (NOT A VIRGIN) given that in most cases in Israel a maiden or young women was a virgin, but that did not give the translators the right to change the text, that is the point here. And Adam is right as concerning the Immanuel thing ,…[Read more]

terraricca………..I take what Jesus said as true , “(NO) man (CAN) come unto ME (UNLESS) GOD, THE FATHER (DRAW) HIM”. This scripture is clear and easily understood, no need to change it to meet anyones personal logic. look up the word (draw) in the GREEK you will find it means (DRAG). Give GOD the GLORY of (ALL) SALVATION of (ALL) HIS CREATION>…[Read more]

WJ…………Jesus became a Son the same way we do When He recieved the HOLY SPIRIT at the JORDAN, at that point he became a son of GOD. The Voice of GOD said this day i have Begotten you. Even though Trinitarians have try to change that to mean He was always GOD. There is no difference between Jesus and Ourselves , if we have the (same) Spirit…[Read more]

Adam………… Good Job…………I have long ago studied the Immanuel account with the Jews and they were right that was a sign given to Ahaz by GOD and it dealt with Issiah's son named Immanuel and the word for Virgin was in fact (young women). That whole thing does give cause to question the virgin berth idea. Jesus had to come from a…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2010,12:03)Hi WJ:It appears that you missed this scripture:Quote 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you kno…[Read more]

terraricca……….That is not what Jesus said , He said to Peter who do you say i am. Peter said He was the son of GOD, Jesus (who was flesh and blood) said flesh and blood did (NOT) reveal that unto him. But his FATHER WHO WAS IN (HEAVEN) HAD REVEALED IT TO HIM. Your argument is with Jesus then not with Me. God the Father is the (ONLY) TRUE ROCK. IMO

terraricca……….Not sure what you are driving at there, But we must believe what Jesus said and He did say, (NO) man (CAN) come unto me unless the FATHER (DRAW) HIM. remember when Jesus as Peter who he was and Peter said you are the Christ the son of the Living GOD, Jesus responded , “Blessed are you Simon Bar Joana, Because flesh and Blood…[Read more]

con…….I was going to bring up the scriptures the Terraricca brought up but no need to he already brought them up , but here is another one to think about. Luke 10.8…> And into whatever city ye enter and they recieve you, eat such things as are set before you: I have known men who have eaten pork all their lives and have lived very long lives…[Read more]