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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    Thinker………If you (totally) gave yourself to me and i told to go and offer your life for the sins of the world and you did it, I could also say it was my blood, because you (totally) gave yourself to me , I am the one responsible for it all, therefore you blood is on me hands. IN THIS SENSE Jesus' blood was GOD'S Blood. Jesus was GOD'S LAMB…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    Thinker………If you (totally) gave yourself to me and i told to go and offer your life for the sins of the world and you did it, I could also say it was my blood, because you (totally) gave yourself to me , I am the one responsible for it all, therefore you blood is on me hands. IN THIS SENSE Jesus' blood was GOD'S Blood. Jesus was GOD'S LAMB…[Read more]

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    thinker………What you are failing to realize is that GOD (GAVE) Him it as an Heir, It also say He will give all thing unto US also . What you are not seeing is GOD is the giver of what ever Jesus has no matter what it is , why do you think Jesus went further is his statement and said the reason he said that was, “THEREFORE (another words this…[Read more]

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    Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 26 2010,07:21)To All.   I realise that very few believe in the salvation of all mankind.  This seems to come from the opinion that we have to “do” certain things to save ourselves, that we have to “accept” Jesus as our saviour, or “allow” the holy spirit to work in us, or “ask” for Gods Grace, or we must “repent”, as well a…[Read more]

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    ED J………It could also be to set free of error thinking, and may not have anything to do with So-called “FREE WILL”. To me there exist no WILL FREE of influences and desires, Not even GOD'S WILL. “for God does (ALL) things after the (COUNSEL) of HIS OWN WILL”. So you see even GOD'S WILL is a Counseled WILL, and therefore and influenced one.…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 26 2010,12:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 26 2010,12:13)Hi TT, Peter and Paul and Elisha raised men from the dead. Should they have been able to raise themselves too by your logic?Peter and Paul and Elisha raised men from the dead by God's power. Jesus raised men from the dead by HIS OWN POWER but under His Father's…[Read more]

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    JA………John said God no only has forgiven us our sins but he has forgiven the whole world theirs to, through the blood of Christ. “For the whole creation shall be delievered from the bondage of corruption. Peace and love to you and your…………………gene

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    To all…..2Co 5:19…>To wit, that God was (IN) Christ, reconciling the (WORLD) unto himself, not imputing (THEIR) Sins unto them, and has committed unto US the word of reconciliation.Now the word (WORLD) has a COMPLETE Meaning (the whole earth). It also says not imputing (THEIR) (the whole worlds) Sins unto them. The (THEIR) is in relationship…[Read more]

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    Nick………Repentance is (NOT) an (OPPORTUNITY) it is and act of GOD in the hearts and minds of those He choses. Repentance comes through GODLY Sorrow. “FOR (GODLY) SORROW (WORKS) REPENTANCE NOT TO NE REPENTED OF”,  And again “FOR YOU SORROWED UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS, or have you not read that NICK. Men do (NOT) repent on (THEIR) Own. On the day of…[Read more]

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    terraricca……..Read the post above your that the answer, think about it.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 7 months ago

    ED J……….Amen brother. I have personally had the Spirit Speak directly though me, once. A wanta be Minister  ask me in public why i saw fit to give a declaimer after His sermon in Church. I responded to him, “i simply was talking to them about the GRACE of GOD”, and He responded “that is what I was also talking about”, and something just…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2010,08:28)hi kerwinyes i have seen it;what he is saying is that God as determine all things and that he is saving anyone who he want to,and will not save anyone who he do not want to,and because God control all events he also pre determind all world affaires.and if we are saved it is because he as wanted it.do i…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……..A “FREE WILL” offering is simply and offering from the SELF, It has nothing to do with the WILL in Man or GOD being “FREE” of Influence. Trying to separate Influences from external or internal does not answer the question is a WILL “FREE” or not. There simply does not exist (ANY) WILL that is (FREE) or it could not be a WILL. All…[Read more]

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    Nick………Are you talking to Me or CO or terraricca.gene

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    Terraricca……..And you are a false accuser of the brethren as well as a twister of what was being talked about , Changing subject matter is a trick of the evil because their Pride refuses to let them admit the truth. We were talking about (WILLS) a complete different subject then what you have Quoted in James. Do you see the word WILL…[Read more]

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    terraricca……..So in your opinion Christ just died for those who are in Him now. But John seem to disagree with you  Because He said Christ not only died for our sins , but the sins of the (WHOLE) World.  GOD is reconciling the (WHOLE) world unto Him through Christ Jesus not just a pick part of it. As you and all (self WILLED) people like to t…[Read more]

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    Terraricca………Just what i said YOUR salvation of OF YOU SELF you think. BY your SO-CALLED “FREE WILL”. the grace of GOD has nothing to do with It it's Just YOUR “FREE WILL” , in this YOU ARE DENYING GOD COMPLETELY. GO look up the word (GRACE) and you will find it means GOD'S INFLUENCING ON THE HEART. “FOR WE ARE SAVED BY THE (GRACE) OF GOD…[Read more]

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    terraricca……..Debating with you does no good, you have already made up your mind and really just want to argue IMO. But i will answer your question if you can comprehend it or not is another question. The very word (WILL) itself proves it is INFLUENCED. A will is the expression of ONE DESIRES and ONE DESIRES are WHAT IS INFLUENCING HIM> GET…[Read more]

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    Chosenone……….I also agree GOD'S Will is that none Parish and He is perfectly able to deliver His whole creation from corruption. GOd has applied Jesus Blood to the whole world and he will ultimately deliver it from corruption. Good Post brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………gene

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    Con……YOU have done an excellent Job. I totally agree that Hell comes from the Anglo Saxon word to bury and the Grave is the true rending is scriptures of the words both in the new and Old testaments. Good JOB Brother. This goes hand in hand with what Jesus said to “don't fear him who can destory the Body then can do nothing else , but fear…[Read more]

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