Berean……“the word was God” not Jesus , why?,  because GOD and his word are one and the same person,  “in “the” “beginning”  was the ‘word who was God,”. not Jesus ,  It was God the Father who said let there be light, not The “MAN” Jesus,  Jesus didn’t even exist then,  show us one scripture where Jesus ever said he himself created anything,  or…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..A word , any word,  is not a person,  it is the EXPRESSIONS  of a person,  God’s Words express HIMSELF, they are not the expression of “ANYONE ELSE”,  but HIMSELF.  The exact same applies to all,  without exception,  no one is or CAN BE YOUR WORD, not now or ever can be. GOD the Father is ONE and His words are his and his alone.  If…[Read more]

Adam……The Jews were the murders of Jesus Christ, the only begotten from the dead Son of the LIVING GOD.  The ten tribes of Israel were considered more righteous than the Jews according to Jeremiah. God did cast them out of the land he gave their forefathers,  but he the same to the treacherous Jews and even sent a Sword after them into every count…[Read more]

Polclaimer…………The word God is not any “PERSON” ,  THE WORD DESCRIBES A “RELATIONSHIP ” you have with something,  AND THAT CAN BE WITH ANYTHING THAT EXISTS. It is never about a “DESCRIPTOR” OF ANYTHING, or ANYONE,  IT IS YOUR “RELATION WITH ANYTHING , OR ANYONE THAT EXISTS.  

The word God is about your beliefs, about something, real or not real.…[Read more]

Berean……why can’t you believe What Jesus said who is “our” “heavenly Father ? Nor what Jesus said about who “the “ONLY ”  “TRUE GOD” WAS.  Why not let’s start with that first,  Then we can move on to this scripture,  “but unto us (true believers) we have only “ONE” GOD, and one mediator between men and God,  “THE MAN” Jesus Christ.  [Read more]

ADAM…..That video is so full of holes, right from the start, it would take hours to explain all of them. The inserting of the idea that the Old Testament is a Jewish bible is false,  it s an “Israelite ” bible , of which the Jews are a insignificant part of.  They  will not take responsibility for Their sins against Christ Jesus, and don’t want t…[Read more]

Carmel…..Jesus said this also,

Matt. 23:9….And call no man your father upon the earth“for one is your Father, which is in heaven”.

Seems we and Jesus have the same Father, so are we God’s too?,  tell us Carmel are you a God, seeing Jesus said  you and Jesus have the same Father, according to Jesus.  So tell us what part of the above “quoted”…[Read more]

Berean…….”know you not that”your” body is the temple of the “living God”,  therefore all the divinity of the living God is in all who have his Spirit “in” them.  We Who have the Spirit of God in us, are men who have that divinity in us, Jesus was a man who had that same divinity in him also.

Did not Jesus say we would do “greater works” then h…[Read more]

Mike……You ask for me to give you proof of what I am saying , I did.  BESIDES the word “Ginomai” was being referenced to Abraham, coming into being,  “caused to be”.  It was not even referencing Jesus himself,  existing as a “sentinel” being at all. The part that references  Jesus was the part that says I am.
Greek for I am “I-mee”…..strong G1510, [Read more]

Berean……Again you show how much you don’t “really” believe what Jesus himself said.  You say he was the one who created everything that exists,  but he said this,  “the son of man” can do “NOTHING ” Of himself”, the Father that is “IN” HIM, “He”  does the works”.
Seems again you and our lord Jesus have different opinions on the subject of who cr…[Read more]

Mike…….Even if we agree with you interpretation , about the word “ginomai ”  , where does that say he existed as a sentinel being of any kind before his birth on this earth?  sure Jesus existed before Abraham,  in the plan and will of God, the “man” Jesus was God’s whole purpose for all of “MANKIND ‘S ” existence  , He was GOD’S PURPOSE FOR AL…[Read more]

Adam…..I completely agree with that,  many force the text to say what it is not actually saying,  but with the guidance of the “SPIRIT OF TRUTH” given to those God has chosen , the truth will come forth.  Satan has done a good job of twisting the truth of God’s words by false translators , to disguise the truth about “the “man” Jesus the anointe…[Read more]

Mike….you are right Jesus is the messenger who delivered What was given him from God the Father, and he delivered it to John another messenger of God , who delivered it to the Churches.  Just that simple,  Jesus is not an, angelic ” being”,  he is the “messenger”.

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Mike….. First of all , the word “I existed” is not in the text , Jesus said Before Abraham I am.

The word “before” used there does not imply a time period.  But a rank or position of importance. The Jews used their tie to Abraham as their position of their importance.  John the Baptist had the same problem with them, that is why he told the tha…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..the word of God, “became”

became……came to pass , God the Father own prophesied words came to pass, or “came to be”, it was the “flesh man” Jesus,  when His human mother gave birth to him.   That verse is not saying Jesus is Gods word himself,  It’s saying the words God spoke through his prophets came to pass, it was the [Read more]

Berean……let me paraphrase it for you OK?,  “Jesus is the “only” “born flesh and blood human being, to become a Son of God,” yet,   (the first of many) to come.

Satan wants you to believe Jesus didn’t come into his only true existence through a human birth process,  and therefore is not of the human race.  That is exactly what you false teachers…[Read more]

Proclaimer……Tell us was Adan born or created,  you false assumption of them being the same is wrong, because “born”,  “ALWAYS”, implies a “BIRTH” process, while a creation does not.   Adam and eve were “CREATED”, not “born”,  The first person “BORN” was “CAIN”.  

Therefore Jesus said unto them,  “you are of your father (the devil),, because the…[Read more]

Mike……Right on brother.  Very good post to LU and Berean too.  That is the way I see it also,  one God who created everything “alone and by himself”. Isa 44:24,   God does nothing through his servants but speakers his words to them and sends them out to tell his words, to who he sends them to.  That is exactly what he did with the prophets…[Read more]

To all……Your using the word “firstborn”,  to mean first created.
Born is completely different then “created “.
Jesus is the first human being “born of the womb of a women, to enter into the kingdom of God.” He is also given by God that firstborn status of them who will also exactly like him will enter into the Kingdom of God also,   but none of…[Read more]

LU….. Jesus said clearly ,  “call no man on earth your father, for one is “your” father who is in heaven”.
And again,  He told us to pray like this , “our”  Father Who art in heaven”….he includes himself by using  the word “OUR”. 

and again, he said,  “your” father in heaven knows you have need of these things”

and again he said , [Read more]