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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 7 months ago
- Proclaimer……what Adam ‘quoted’ directly from scripture is exactly right, you can’t deny it so you come up your “mystery” religious false teachings.
- As far as the “Devine “NATURE” goes, anyone who has the Spirit of God “in” them, has it, “ANYONE”.
- WHILE these bodies can parish and turn to dust , they can and can also be regenerat…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Lu…..Read any truth Hebrew translators explanation of what is said there and they will telll you the first word written there As LORD IS referring to YEHWAH OR ALMIGHTY GOD. , WHILE THE second (lord) is referring to a “HUMAN” RULER.
IT REALLY DOSENT TAKE MUCH TO UNDERSTAND THAT. ,
Even in Greek it shows a difference between the words LORD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
LU…… In the Old Testament the word (Adonai ) occurs 434 times, there are heave uses of the word in the book of Isaiah , 200 times, in Daniel 11 times , in chapter 9, first used in Gen 15;2, and also in the book of Paslms 110: 1, :
Meaning and Derivation: Adonia….is a verbal parallel to Yahweh and Jehovah, Adonia is plural ; the singular…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean…..your last post is a very good post . I do agree with him. Jesus is indeed the “HUMAN” Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament . BUT not the “GOD” messiah you and others here preach.
Peace and love to you and yours……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Carmel……very simple , they were “messengers” of God, both Jesus and Paul were. Human messengers. Not angelic beings, as you falsely assume.
peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean……That takes place after Satan is released from his place of holding, the bottomless pit, he knows he has but a short time to live, 3 1/ 2 years left , then he will be cast into the lake of fire and go into perdition .
That all takes place at the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saint’s, that is just about to begin.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
lu…..Jesus no more came from heaven then we have, Did He not say call no man your Father on earth? But one is your Father who is in heaven, so we can also say we are from heaven , that is IF, you believe what Jesus said.
Did He Not say his deciles were not of this world? Yes he did, then pray tell me where they were from? And he said as he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer…… the word “prime- minister, ” uses the definite article (prime) before it, showing it is a definite individual , while the word minister can mean anyone right? That is the point , the Word LORD , MEANS A CERTAIN Being and , LORD (Adonia) in Hebrew is always referencing God almighty himself, no other. And the word lord can apply…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer……wrong again…… Go look at the words used in that scripture is UPPER CASE , AND check out the Strongs, the Go and look up the word lord used in lower case and you will see that word simply means a ruler, any ruler Judge, or any person in a higher position then you.
Big difference in the Hebrew words used for Lord that has been translat…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean…..what does that have to do with the word “adonia”, LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, and “adon” a judge or “human” ruler.
“The LORD, “ADONIA” Almighty God, said unto my lord “ADON” a human ruler or King , Sit on my right hand Until “I ” (almighty God) make your (Jesus ‘) enemies your foot stole.peace and love to you and yours………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean……Jesus SAID TO THE Father , that he was “the ONLY” , “true God”, and Jesus is not “LORD” Adonai , he is “lord” Adon, same as any human ruler is.
You really need to make a study on the difference uses of the word Lord in scriptures.
peace and love to you and your………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 7 months ago
Adam……..Your presentation video, leaves out all kinds of biblical related proof related Texts, that prove him wrong, as of course he would , just to touch on one of many. The turning over the kingdom of David 4 times until it is returned back to Jerusalem when Jesus returns. God promised David (a Jew) his kingdom would not lack a man ruli…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean,,,,,;O’ really show us that “written” in our scriptures.? I have never read that neither have you.
peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer…..Got that wrong too, that scripture was talking about when Jesus was on this earth , he existed in the nature of God, “NOT” before he was born on this earth , but after he was born a human being, on this earth, he received through the Holy Spirit the very nature of God after he was baptized and followed the will of God . “<…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean and Proclaimer…..it is ‘impossible” for a word, “ANY WORD” to become flesh . Words are spirit driven and are never flesh they represent the mind of the spirit in the body. The only thing a word can do is to become true, or false, And that is exactly what GOD the fathers word did, it came into being, as (true) , it was the Flesh man…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer …..those questions have been answered here by myself and Jodi many times. Like we said it was God the Father’s prophesied word about Jesus that came into being , not that Jesus was some PREEXISTING live being “MORPHED” into a human body as you falsely preach. Jesus is the exact representative of what God the Father had in “MIND” …[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer……Do You suppose, Jesus was alive in heaven and God took him and morphed him into a human body, which also denies Jesus’ actual human flesh birth “as a human, “exactly” as we are . It also denies his true humanity completely. to you he is a PREEXISTING , what ? You have never explained that yet as I recall. But what ever you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean…..Your religion came from the Catholic Church , read history , the Protestant Church came from the Catholic Church, even now the Catholic’s considers the Protestant church’s their sisters . Martin Luther was a Catholic priest , he did not completely leave all what that Church taught , he keep the , TRINITY , doctrine , which the Protes…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
To all…….In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit and said, “I thank you O Father, Lord of heaven and earth , that you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and “REVEALED ” them unto “BABES”; even so, Father; for it seemed good in your site.
Even so it is to this very day, in my opinion , people look to other people to give them their…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is the Vatican the Beast? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer…….1 John 4:1…..Beloved believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (2) Here’s how you know the Spirit of God: “every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ Is come in the flesh is of God’. (3) and every spirit that confesses not Jesus Christ Is com…[Read more]
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