Quote (kerwin @ April 28 2010,17:37)Gene Balthrop,So we Jesus is teaching us not to give “means reverence and respect” to those who would kill the body.That certainly seems to contradict scriptures that tells you to obey the authorities God placed over you.Why did he bother mentioning “kill the body” or “destroy both soul and body in hell” if he…[Read more]

Nick………Could say the same about you, seening you refuse to believe what scripture say in some places , like When Jesus said GOd could destory (both) body and soul (IN) the Grave, you assume that there are three components to a person < the body, Soul, the spirit, but Jessu and scripture does not back that up. You assume the Word is NOT…[Read more]

ED J………..OUR so-called “FREE WILL” has nothing to do with it , INFLUENCED WILL BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD Has every thing to do with it. the Word “FREE WILL” is an OXYMORON. There exist no such thing as a (FREE) Will. Because if a Will is FREE then it simply would NOT be a WILL would IT?. Think about it.

Nick………Souls under the alter is a metaphor for GOD intent to reconstruct them by a resurrection of the dead. Very much like the term in the Bosom of Abraham. Evidently you forgot to read the beginning of the Book or Revelations where it says the book was (SIGNIFIED) that means (SYMBOLIZED) We need to take the Symbols not as literial but in a…[Read more]

Nick…………Look up the word used there < you will find it should be rendered (respect or reverence) , Fear is (NOT) the proper wording there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand Jesus was telling us Not to Worry about some who could Kill our bodies and after that do nothing else. So let me rephrase it for you in proper…[Read more]

Kwewin………..Look up the Word translated there for Fear, and you will find it means reverence and respect. Jesus was telling us to basically not to be worried about them that can kill our bodies and can do no More to Us, But have respect and reverence to him that can destory BOTH BODY and SOUL In the GRAVE. Here is something for you to deal…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2010,06:29)Gene Balthrop wrote:Quote I absolutely believe what a man sows he will reap, both now and in the future, I have reaped some sorrow and Pain over some of the things I have done in my life also,  but that cause me NO Fear,Fear like anger can be healthy if used correctly but when not it becomes sinful.  God gave u…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:00)G, Why do you cast scripture aside to develop your theories and yet your faith must stand on it?Freedom in the Spirit does not include freedom from scriptural teaching.Nick………Show me where i cast any scripture aside as you say. Post it, or are you also a false accuser of the brethren. And why say…[Read more]

terraricca………Right you can quote scripture till your blue in the face and Not be at all converted, all who put Scripture above GOD are worshiping the scriptures as their GOD. We Must use The Spirit of GOD to properly understand the things written in scriptures. The Spirit causes us to grow in understanding and Knowledge as Well as GRACE of…[Read more]

Nick……….Your words are not scripturally supported, show were Souls are still alive when a persons Body parishes in the grave. All Israel will have a new Bodies and resurected , in fact all who are raised from the grave will have new bodies, or they could never be a living Soul again. There is no such thing as a Naked SOUL , Unless you are…[Read more]

Adam………….Where i think the confusion comes in is Most think Paul was against the Torah , when in fact he was not, Paul addressed the issue of How we are made right in the eyes of GOD and that can not be by (WORKS) of LAW, So How does law WORK, it WORKS threough the MEDIUM of FEAR, e.g. Ex 20:20 shows this clearly Fear was the bases for…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,13:49)G, Many folk feel they are walking in an anointing when they are preaching their own ideas.False prophets they are. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev19Nick………..Yes and are you one of them? You seem to truly not understand what is written at times, because it doesn't agree with your…[Read more]

Nick…………Go figure this out, “YOU study the Scriptures for (IN THEM) You (THINK) you have Life, But they are those to speak of me and you do not come to me in order to have LIFE”. Life is not in Scriptures it is in our relationship with Jesus and GOD the FATHER. Your GOD has become scripture it appears. SO i would say your indeed are the…[Read more]

Nick……You couldn't be any further wrong, Our relationship with Jesus and GOD the FATHER is the Holy Spirit and even if i never saw any scriptures that would not change anything. We do not maintain our fellowship with GOD through Scriptures. We maintain fellowship with The Father and Jesus in Prayer and Fellowship with Him and Jesus through…[Read more]

Nick………If Scripture was the ONLY Way I could be Pleasing to GOD that would be very little at best. You study the Scriptures for in THEM you think you have life. There is more to Pleasing GOD by Far then what is written in Scripture. Scripture does relay GOD thought's to Us But it takes far more then that to change our hearts and minds. It…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2010,08:04)G, Do you ask God to recreate you after you stop existing or before?Nick………..If God does not recreate a body for you when you die you will never live again. Your life is in His Hands totally and completely. I ask GOD to have Mercy me and on ALL to forgive Us and heal us from all unrighteousness that…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 26 2010,08:03)Gene,((Small point… Have you considered the Trees were not literal Trees of which eating the fruit would cause death or life – that it was a test from God – that Man's ability to know good and evil was within their grasp but was not good for them to acquaint themselves with, that the secret to everlasting…[Read more]

Nick………You need to pay better attention to what is said , where did i say I ask GOD to recreate me to face Judgment , I ask GOD to recreate Me with a eternal existing Body as Jesus Has and Live for ever with HIM. Adam could has lived for ever in their flesh bodies had they eaten of the tree of LIFE that was in the middle of the Garden of…[Read more]

JA……..I believe we will. Those who loved not their lives unto death will be in the First resurrection. It say “for these loved (NOT) their Lives unto death”. You contain Spirit (intellect) When you die it goes back to the one who gave it. You as a SOUL or Person cease to exist, Because you cannot exist with out a BODY> GOD Must first…[Read more]

terraricca………….You do have a point, I have thought that also, There is a time period after the 1000 year reign of Jesus and the Saints , the seem to indicate this and I believe can confuse some who think all the Violence and tribulations take place before the Millennium rule of Christ. IMOpeace and love………………….gene