Proclaimer……God’s word is certainly Devine, no matter who quotes them,  but turning “the man Jesus ”  into a God is a Lie , and that is exactly what fallen Christianity has done.

Look the very reason the apostasy took place over 1700 years ago, was because of the false teachings of The TRINITY DOCTRINE,  and that DOCTRINE turns  the “MAN” Jesus…[Read more]

Berean……Being found in fashion  as a “man” ,why?,   was because he was a “MAN”.

“but unto us ( the saved) , there is but “ONE GOD”   and  ONE MEDIATOR , between GOD and men, “the “MAN”  Jesus Christ. ”

YOU either believe that or not, just that simple .

peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Proclaimer…….Your getting closer to the truth,  in Paul’s prophesy about the return of Jesus, In 2 ths2, he tells us that Jesus will not return unless the  Apostate (the falling away from the truth comes first ) that took place more the 1700 years ago,  and became the main teaching of Christianity ever since ,  the main teaching of the <…[Read more]

Berean……What you are saying John 1: 1,  does not say at all> John never said Jesus was A God, nor That Jesus himself is the word of God either,  But Jesus  said  just the opposite,  “the words i am telling you “ARE NOT” my words”  Now that’s what Jesus himself said. So if Jesus said the words he was telling us were ‘NOT’ his words,  then what word…[Read more]

Mike …….Your post # 872708  was right on, brother,  I completely agree with , it would do well If  everyone here read it,  and really thought about it.  Because that is exactly what the ,  ‘TRINITARIAN’S” DO. “they force our scriptures to say what in fact,  they are not saying or even hinting at either. ”

The “DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY”  is bey…[Read more]

Mike…..Berean is indoctrinated into the false teachings of the Trinity, it would take a miracle to bring him out  of it,  simply a waste of  time.  Our teachings are much alike, except it do not believe Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth , but was certainly prophesied to come by God through the prophets,  and God word came true , it was th…[Read more]

Berean…..According to Jesus, we are “ALL”  the sons of God.  So what makes you think that Jesus,  being also a Son of God exactly as we are, makes him any different then we are, in the sense of being ” SON’S OF GOD TO”?    you seem to think because Jesus is call the Son of God , some how makes him different then we are.  ?  ,  Please list any scri…[Read more]

Carmel……So in your theology , the only way to God is from Jesus right?,  but Jesus said , “no man could come to him except God “draw him”.  Seems you have a contradiction of who moves on us first.

IT’S GOD THE FATHER WHO BRINGS US TO Jesus , according to Jesus.  Example,  “Peter who do you say I am,  Peter responds , “you are the son of the livi…[Read more]

Berean…..ARENT WE ASLO,  made in the “IMAGE OF GOD”? ,  “FOR IN THE “IMAGE” OF GOD made He them, male and female  made he them”.  I guess you really don’t believe that right?

Jesus had to be a 100% human being , or he could not have  qualified , to pay the price for our sins.  ‘For by man sin came, and therefore, by man it had to be atoned for.…[Read more]

Adam……… Yes Cyrus was a anointed servant of God, Just as Moses, all the prophets and yes even Jesus, they were all human servants of God, led by his Holy Spirit , to do his will. They were all human beings.
Our difference I believe, is you no longer believe Jesus was the Messiah, that was prophesied to come, I believe scripture shows he ce…[Read more]

LU…….Was King David a human being?  SO,  what makes You think Jesus wasn’t?

Did Jesus not say he was a SON OF MAN, around 80 times in scripture? it’s interesting why you would even question his “HUMANITY” .

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Adam…..Question,  was King Cyrus from above,  was  he caused to be by God,  after all,  he was “prophesied” by God over 200 years before his berth, God even named him right? ,  so did he come from God , was he even sent  by God ?  Or did God  have anything to do with it at all?, I believe he both was from above and sent from above,  the same…[Read more]

Berean……God is A Spirit,  so if he is “in” you , divinity is present “in” you.  With which , no one can be Devine not no one , NOT EVEN THE MAN JESUS.  Don’t you understand what he meant when he said ” the Father is “in” me”?   Or don’t you know , what Paul meant when he said “You body “IS” THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD”?  , because our bodies ‘a…[Read more]

Berean…..Our redeemer is God the Father and “HE” redeemed us through the blood of Jesus Christ .

John 3:16,….For , “GOD”  , so loved the world that “HE” (God the father)  gave,  his only begotten Son , that whosoever believes on him should not parish.

Now who was the “real”  redeemer ? , was it not God the Father himself who redeemed us?  You…[Read more]

Berean……In none of that did Jesus say he was alive before he ever came to this earth as a human or any other being.  Neither does the ” I am” thing,  mean Jesus is saying he is God either. You are one of those who Jesus said would come and say,   “I am”, and deceive many”.  Jesus know the deception in religion would be about who he really was , t…[Read more]

Berean……Call no man on earth your father but one is your Father who is in heaven.  We all can from heaven , yes all humanity has.  But you chose to make mankind a sub species, and Jesus a complete different pieces then we are, even though haven told us exactly what that different species is yet,  please produce , scriptural proof of just what was…[Read more]

LU…..Your not facing the truth, and I know why , because if you truly believed that the word “Adon” means a human ruler , then you would have to admit , David was speaking of  Jesus as a human ruler.  That would shatter your true conception of who Jesus is.  BUT remember Jesus himself said in Revelations who he was,  “the human root and offsp…[Read more]

Adam…..I now see what proclaimer meant,  by you thinking Jesus did not have the Devine Nature,  You need to realize what the Devine nature is brother,  it is in everyone who has the Holy Spirit of God in them,  Moses had it, the seventy elders of Israel also had it,  King David , even Saul had it , until God removed his Spirit from him and sent h…[Read more]

Proclaimer…… You must not have read what I said,  I know human being can share in the Devine nature, where have I ever said differently, it is shared by the Holy Spirit given us flesh men,  just as it was and is with the flesh man Jesus .
MY question to you is why do you and others here “despise God the Father’s “human” creation so much ” the very…[Read more]

LU….. I even told you how many times both those words were written in the Hebrew text,  why not make a true search, and check it out , it’s on the internet for all to see, if they truly want to.

peace and love to you and yours…………gene