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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
LU…….Was King David a human being? SO, what makes You think Jesus wasn’t?
Did Jesus not say he was a SON OF MAN, around 80 times in scripture? it’s interesting why you would even question his “HUMANITY” .
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Adam…..Question, was King Cyrus from above, was he caused to be by God, after all, he was “prophesied” by God over 200 years before his berth, God even named him right? , so did he come from God , was he even sent by God ? Or did God have anything to do with it at all?, I believe he both was from above and sent from above, the same…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean……God is A Spirit, so if he is “in” you , divinity is present “in” you. With which , no one can be Devine not no one , NOT EVEN THE MAN JESUS. Don’t you understand what he meant when he said ” the Father is “in” me”? Or don’t you know , what Paul meant when he said “You body “IS” THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD”? , because our bodies ‘a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean…..Our redeemer is God the Father and “HE” redeemed us through the blood of Jesus Christ .
John 3:16,….For , “GOD” , so loved the world that “HE” (God the father) gave, his only begotten Son , that whosoever believes on him should not parish.
Now who was the “real” redeemer ? , was it not God the Father himself who redeemed us? You…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean……In none of that did Jesus say he was alive before he ever came to this earth as a human or any other being. Neither does the ” I am” thing, mean Jesus is saying he is God either. You are one of those who Jesus said would come and say, “I am”, and deceive many”. Jesus know the deception in religion would be about who he really was , t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean……Call no man on earth your father but one is your Father who is in heaven. We all can from heaven , yes all humanity has. But you chose to make mankind a sub species, and Jesus a complete different pieces then we are, even though haven told us exactly what that different species is yet, please produce , scriptural proof of just what was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
LU…..Your not facing the truth, and I know why , because if you truly believed that the word “Adon” means a human ruler , then you would have to admit , David was speaking of Jesus as a human ruler. That would shatter your true conception of who Jesus is. BUT remember Jesus himself said in Revelations who he was, “the human root and offsp…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Adam…..I now see what proclaimer meant, by you thinking Jesus did not have the Devine Nature, You need to realize what the Devine nature is brother, it is in everyone who has the Holy Spirit of God in them, Moses had it, the seventy elders of Israel also had it, King David , even Saul had it , until God removed his Spirit from him and sent h…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer…… You must not have read what I said, I know human being can share in the Devine nature, where have I ever said differently, it is shared by the Holy Spirit given us flesh men, just as it was and is with the flesh man Jesus .
MY question to you is why do you and others here “despise God the Father’s “human” creation so much ” the very…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
LU….. I even told you how many times both those words were written in the Hebrew text, why not make a true search, and check it out , it’s on the internet for all to see, if they truly want to.
peace and love to you and yours…………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
- Proclaimer……what Adam ‘quoted’ directly from scripture is exactly right, you can’t deny it so you come up your “mystery” religious false teachings.
- As far as the “Devine “NATURE” goes, anyone who has the Spirit of God “in” them, has it, “ANYONE”.
- WHILE these bodies can parish and turn to dust , they can and can also be regenerat…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Lu…..Read any truth Hebrew translators explanation of what is said there and they will telll you the first word written there As LORD IS referring to YEHWAH OR ALMIGHTY GOD. , WHILE THE second (lord) is referring to a “HUMAN” RULER.
IT REALLY DOSENT TAKE MUCH TO UNDERSTAND THAT. ,
Even in Greek it shows a difference between the words LORD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
LU…… In the Old Testament the word (Adonai ) occurs 434 times, there are heave uses of the word in the book of Isaiah , 200 times, in Daniel 11 times , in chapter 9, first used in Gen 15;2, and also in the book of Paslms 110: 1, :
Meaning and Derivation: Adonia….is a verbal parallel to Yahweh and Jehovah, Adonia is plural ; the singular…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean…..your last post is a very good post . I do agree with him. Jesus is indeed the “HUMAN” Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament . BUT not the “GOD” messiah you and others here preach.
Peace and love to you and yours……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Carmel……very simple , they were “messengers” of God, both Jesus and Paul were. Human messengers. Not angelic beings, as you falsely assume.
peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean……That takes place after Satan is released from his place of holding, the bottomless pit, he knows he has but a short time to live, 3 1/ 2 years left , then he will be cast into the lake of fire and go into perdition .
That all takes place at the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saint’s, that is just about to begin.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
lu…..Jesus no more came from heaven then we have, Did He not say call no man your Father on earth? But one is your Father who is in heaven, so we can also say we are from heaven , that is IF, you believe what Jesus said.
Did He Not say his deciles were not of this world? Yes he did, then pray tell me where they were from? And he said as he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer…… the word “prime- minister, ” uses the definite article (prime) before it, showing it is a definite individual , while the word minister can mean anyone right? That is the point , the Word LORD , MEANS A CERTAIN Being and , LORD (Adonia) in Hebrew is always referencing God almighty himself, no other. And the word lord can apply…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer……wrong again…… Go look at the words used in that scripture is UPPER CASE , AND check out the Strongs, the Go and look up the word lord used in lower case and you will see that word simply means a ruler, any ruler Judge, or any person in a higher position then you.
Big difference in the Hebrew words used for Lord that has been translat…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
Berean…..what does that have to do with the word “adonia”, LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, and “adon” a judge or “human” ruler.
“The LORD, “ADONIA” Almighty God, said unto my lord “ADON” a human ruler or King , Sit on my right hand Until “I ” (almighty God) make your (Jesus ‘) enemies your foot stole.peace and love to you and yours………..gene
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