Mike……The number one problem here is that you and others do not understand WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS, . “THE WORD GOD IS NEVER A REAL PERSON, It “only” means THE ,  “RELATIONSHIP” YOU HAVE,   with something,  “ANYTHING” can be Your GOD.  IT DOSENT EVEN HAVE TO BE ALIVE.  It could even be a rock , your money,  what ever it doesn’t matter what it is,…[Read more]

Adam……what I was trying to say is that there are two different ways people see things , on is from a Carmel or worldly ways , the other are from a Spiritual way,  the Carmel focuses on this world and how we physically do thing and see thing, the Spiritual sees thing differently.  The Jew’s messiah to them is only a carnal ruler that just deliver…[Read more]

Lu…….Jesus said the word he was telling us were “SPIRIT” ,  Jesus said God “IS” a SPIRIT  ,  that is his essence,  and GOD the father can by, that essence be in us “all”    “That God may be in “all” and through “all”.   God essence is not limited to just three things, it’s “IN” EVERYTHING THAT HAS LIFE IN IT.  

JESUS said that God the father was [Read more]

Adam……Another point to consider ,   Was Jesus dealing with the salvation of Carmel nation , or with eternal salvation of all human beings? ,  the Salvation Of Jesus was for eternal life,  the Jew’s salvation looks to their physical salvation as a nation. Big difference in what kind of salvation we’re talking about, The Jews rejected their eter…[Read more]

Adam……I agree with that also brother.

peace and love to you and yours Adam……….gene

Adam…….The animal sacrifice “for the saved”,  Will never be needed again, it’s not talking about those who are not saved, as the world will be when The Messiah Jesus  returns and rules over them along with the saved Saint’s .  The JEWS of this world will still be,  as they were before THE MESSIAH JESUS RETURNS , they are not spiritually m…[Read more]

ADAM……I also believe that the biggest myth of all,  is thinking Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth. Jesus never address himself as having a actual personal pass relationship with God,  he  always used present tense language,  except where he was referencing prophetic subjects MATTER. I have ask here before for anyone to show me ANY DIALOGU…[Read more]

Adam……Do you understand the concept of Sacrifice,  what it represented even in the Old Testament , can you give a reason for it to ever be commanded by God himself? please think about this and answer this inquire, It may help a lot here.

peace and love to you and your Adam………….gene

Adam……Proclaimer is right, about the sacrificial lamb, being  the sign of the redemption given us in the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God,  Jesus Christ.  He is absolutely  right about that. It was God the Father who offered up Jesus as the payment for our sins.  That is clear in both the new and the Old Testaments, of how sin were dealt with.

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To all……… If you believe God the Father called Jesus a God,  then God the Father would  be contradicting   his very own words,  “you shall have no other God beside me , 

Isa 44:6…“Thus says the LORD the king of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD OF HOSTS ; I am the first , and the last,  and BESIDES ME, THERE IS “NO” GOD. 

Isa 44:8…..[Read more]

Proclaimer……… God is Spirit and he is Devine nature,  he can “indwell”  us and then we become partakers of that Devine nature also,  but as you said , none of that makes us a God,  the same applies to Jesus .

“Now if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the Grave be dwell in you , he who raised Christ Jesus from the grave will also quicken y…[Read more]

Berean……The bible says,   “But unto us (true believers) there is but “ONE” GOD, and “ONE”  MEDIATOR,  between me and God,  the “MAN” Jesus Christ.

You say Jesus is a God,  but God said in Isiah he look for another God and found NONE. He also said , “HE ALONE WAS GOD AND THERE WAS NO OTHER GOD.” SCRIPTURE, ALSO SAID,  “for God is “NOT” a man…[Read more]

Adam……Jesus is the MESSIAH,  he came first to deliver us from our sins,  Next time as the ruler of this whole world.

Those Jew’s are misguiding you brother,  they murdered him then,  and what would make you think, they know what they are saying NOW?  Have you now joined the enemies  of our lord , Jesus Christ, and Almighty God who sent him, a…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..None of what It say there makes us any different then Jesus, except he was EXULTED by God our Father over all of his HUMAN brothers and sisters.

WAS Jesus a human being,  made in the form  (image) of God, so are we, was he found existing as a flesh human being , so are we, did he humble his self and serve God the Father , so sho…[Read more]

Berean…..where do you get all these weird thing from?

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Mike…..So let’s not strain our brains ok,  Scripture says  (not me )  But unto us the is but “ONE” GOD, and one mediator between God and Men,  the “MAN” Jesus Christ.

Please tell me what part of that scripture you don’t believe?

You say that a mediator can’t be a man or a God,  that is not true,  why because it could be eat her one, a mediat…[Read more]

Berean…….. First of all you need to understand what it means to be in the “form” of God,  can you explain that to us?  Next is what time was that talking about , I believe it was talking about when he was on this earth,  Then the passage address the idea that Jesus did not think to “rob” God to try to make himself “equal” to him.    It is not say…[Read more]