Adam……Do you understand the concept of Sacrifice,  what it represented even in the Old Testament , can you give a reason for it to ever be commanded by God himself? please think about this and answer this inquire, It may help a lot here.

peace and love to you and your Adam………….gene

Adam……Proclaimer is right, about the sacrificial lamb, being  the sign of the redemption given us in the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God,  Jesus Christ.  He is absolutely  right about that. It was God the Father who offered up Jesus as the payment for our sins.  That is clear in both the new and the Old Testaments, of how sin were dealt with.

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To all……… If you believe God the Father called Jesus a God,  then God the Father would  be contradicting   his very own words,  “you shall have no other God beside me , 

Isa 44:6…“Thus says the LORD the king of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD OF HOSTS ; I am the first , and the last,  and BESIDES ME, THERE IS “NO” GOD. 

Isa 44:8…..[Read more]

Proclaimer……… God is Spirit and he is Devine nature,  he can “indwell”  us and then we become partakers of that Devine nature also,  but as you said , none of that makes us a God,  the same applies to Jesus .

“Now if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the Grave be dwell in you , he who raised Christ Jesus from the grave will also quicken y…[Read more]

Berean……The bible says,   “But unto us (true believers) there is but “ONE” GOD, and “ONE”  MEDIATOR,  between me and God,  the “MAN” Jesus Christ.

You say Jesus is a God,  but God said in Isiah he look for another God and found NONE. He also said , “HE ALONE WAS GOD AND THERE WAS NO OTHER GOD.” SCRIPTURE, ALSO SAID,  “for God is “NOT” a man…[Read more]

Adam……Jesus is the MESSIAH,  he came first to deliver us from our sins,  Next time as the ruler of this whole world.

Those Jew’s are misguiding you brother,  they murdered him then,  and what would make you think, they know what they are saying NOW?  Have you now joined the enemies  of our lord , Jesus Christ, and Almighty God who sent him, a…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..None of what It say there makes us any different then Jesus, except he was EXULTED by God our Father over all of his HUMAN brothers and sisters.

WAS Jesus a human being,  made in the form  (image) of God, so are we, was he found existing as a flesh human being , so are we, did he humble his self and serve God the Father , so sho…[Read more]

Berean…..where do you get all these weird thing from?

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Mike…..So let’s not strain our brains ok,  Scripture says  (not me )  But unto us the is but “ONE” GOD, and one mediator between God and Men,  the “MAN” Jesus Christ.

Please tell me what part of that scripture you don’t believe?

You say that a mediator can’t be a man or a God,  that is not true,  why because it could be eat her one, a mediat…[Read more]

Berean…….. First of all you need to understand what it means to be in the “form” of God,  can you explain that to us?  Next is what time was that talking about , I believe it was talking about when he was on this earth,  Then the passage address the idea that Jesus did not think to “rob” God to try to make himself “equal” to him.    It is not say…[Read more]

Proclaimer……God’s word is certainly Devine, no matter who quotes them,  but turning “the man Jesus ”  into a God is a Lie , and that is exactly what fallen Christianity has done.

Look the very reason the apostasy took place over 1700 years ago, was because of the false teachings of The TRINITY DOCTRINE,  and that DOCTRINE turns  the “MAN” Jesus…[Read more]

Berean……Being found in fashion  as a “man” ,why?,   was because he was a “MAN”.

“but unto us ( the saved) , there is but “ONE GOD”   and  ONE MEDIATOR , between GOD and men, “the “MAN”  Jesus Christ. ”

YOU either believe that or not, just that simple .

peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Proclaimer…….Your getting closer to the truth,  in Paul’s prophesy about the return of Jesus, In 2 ths2, he tells us that Jesus will not return unless the  Apostate (the falling away from the truth comes first ) that took place more the 1700 years ago,  and became the main teaching of Christianity ever since ,  the main teaching of the <…[Read more]

Berean……What you are saying John 1: 1,  does not say at all> John never said Jesus was A God, nor That Jesus himself is the word of God either,  But Jesus  said  just the opposite,  “the words i am telling you “ARE NOT” my words”  Now that’s what Jesus himself said. So if Jesus said the words he was telling us were ‘NOT’ his words,  then what word…[Read more]

Mike …….Your post # 872708  was right on, brother,  I completely agree with , it would do well If  everyone here read it,  and really thought about it.  Because that is exactly what the ,  ‘TRINITARIAN’S” DO. “they force our scriptures to say what in fact,  they are not saying or even hinting at either. ”

The “DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY”  is bey…[Read more]

Mike…..Berean is indoctrinated into the false teachings of the Trinity, it would take a miracle to bring him out  of it,  simply a waste of  time.  Our teachings are much alike, except it do not believe Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth , but was certainly prophesied to come by God through the prophets,  and God word came true , it was th…[Read more]

Berean…..According to Jesus, we are “ALL”  the sons of God.  So what makes you think that Jesus,  being also a Son of God exactly as we are, makes him any different then we are, in the sense of being ” SON’S OF GOD TO”?    you seem to think because Jesus is call the Son of God , some how makes him different then we are.  ?  ,  Please list any scri…[Read more]

Carmel……So in your theology , the only way to God is from Jesus right?,  but Jesus said , “no man could come to him except God “draw him”.  Seems you have a contradiction of who moves on us first.

IT’S GOD THE FATHER WHO BRINGS US TO Jesus , according to Jesus.  Example,  “Peter who do you say I am,  Peter responds , “you are the son of the livi…[Read more]

Berean…..ARENT WE ASLO,  made in the “IMAGE OF GOD”? ,  “FOR IN THE “IMAGE” OF GOD made He them, male and female  made he them”.  I guess you really don’t believe that right?

Jesus had to be a 100% human being , or he could not have  qualified , to pay the price for our sins.  ‘For by man sin came, and therefore, by man it had to be atoned for.…[Read more]

Adam……… Yes Cyrus was a anointed servant of God, Just as Moses, all the prophets and yes even Jesus, they were all human servants of God, led by his Holy Spirit , to do his will. They were all human beings.
Our difference I believe, is you no longer believe Jesus was the Messiah, that was prophesied to come, I believe scripture shows he ce…[Read more]