Nike………..I must be missing something here , what are you trying to say, don't you believe that Jesus is indeed a son of Man. Jesus seemed to stress this point over and over again, even saying when he comes he still will be a son of Man. Are you say Jesus can not be both Son of Man and a Son of GOD by way of adoption as we are. I seem to be…[Read more]

Nike………..I must be missing something here , what are you trying to say, don't you believe that Jesus is indeed a son of Man. Jesus seemed to stress this point over and over again, even saying when he comes he still will be a son of Man. Are you say Jesus can not be both Son of Man and a Son of GOD by way of adoption as we are. I seem to be…[Read more]

Terraricca……….Whose arguing that point , It still does not change the fact the it is (GOD) HIMSELF who is the (ONLY)SAVIOR of (ALL) Man Kind. No matter who he does it through , (ONLY) GOD the FATHER get (ALL) the CREDIT For Salvation. IMO WE must honor Jesus (TO THE GLORY OF THE FATHER) we should not Honor Jesus to the (exclusion) of the…[Read more]

ED J……….So can we say PETER was SATAN, Jesus said He was. “GET BEHIND ME SATAN”. or what about this ” HAVE I NOT CHOSEN ALL OF YOU AND ONE OF YOU (IS) A DEVIL. So who is these elusive (BEING) going around jumping in and out of People? Was it Peter , Judas , or the {Pharisees} Jesus seemed to think it was them right? All adversarial Spirits…[Read more]

Chosenone ……The Self WILLED are Self Driven. Their focus is on the SELF. They can not give the (complete) glory to GOD for their Salvation, their “So- Called “FREE WILLS” prevent them from doing that, they must take credit for their own salvation as long as they believe in “FREE” Will salvation. They profess GOD but truly deny his Power in…[Read more]

SF……………..Eyes are symbolic language used in scripture, they represent Spirits (intellects) of GOD, the four living creatures surrounding the throne of GOD have three sets of wing (that which lifts up) full of eyes (spirits of God), God spirit does lift up the Mind and understanding of His childern. IMO Peace and love……………………gene

Mike………..Jesus was indeed (before) because he was (predestined) to be who he was and this predestination was from above and was sent into the world when he was born through Mary and he did return where he originated to GOD the FATHER. As far as the Glory he had, that was a predestined glory, for the Son of Man who (learned obedience) and was…[Read more]

ED J……….God has (FULL) responsibility of (ALL) things, and allows what he allows and prevents what He Choses to Prevent. If you were not a “FREE” WILLER'S You could understand these things , But all “FREE WILLER'S” are a GOD unto themselves so they believe (THEY) ARE in Charge and responsible for all their action including their salvation…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,15:31)Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,04:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2010,02:28)ED J………..Get rid of the numbers , you can do a far better job without them brother! IMOpeace and love………………..geneHi Gene,You mean like all the convincing you have done (with others) since you have been here?Titus -:-…[Read more]

Terraricca………Show us (one) scripture that says a BEING Named SATAN (BECAME) AND ADVERSARY OF GOD” or are you again forcing the text to meet you dogmas and teachings. peace and love…………..gene

ED J …….YOU reasoning is wrong, GOD takes (FULL) Responsibility for (EVERYTHING) in EXISTENCE, rather GOOD OR EVIL. An Yes he has Killed millions of People Himself causing and brining it on them. Anyone who has read the old testament accounts can easily understand that. You are trying to make it out to be like the cause of something is not…[Read more]

Kerwin………Indeed the seven Spirits of GOD are His eyes that give him His omnipresence in all creation. These are specific Spirits or (INTELLECTS) which guide the mind of GOD himself. Jesus will if not already has all seven of these Spirit eyes coupled wit (HORNS)or POWERS and He will rule earth with them some along with the saints. They are…[Read more]

Mike………..I also believe Jesus came from Heaven (not) as a preexisting (Being) but through THE Plan OF GOD being fulfilled. God told The “serpent” that the (seed of the women) would bruise it Head. He did not say a already (EXISTING) seed of his would brute the head of the serpent . Cyrus was like wise a servant of GOD foreordained by GOD to…[Read more]

Kerwin…….Remember in scripture where it say “FOR THESE LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH” These are the one before the throne of GOD and it was (THEIR) Lives that did not love. You Analogy of Pharaoh is not right because it was GOD who said HE Hardened His Heart so he would not let the people go. Again I am not saying or denying that EVIL…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2010,13:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2010,14:33)Mike ………. I thought, I did answer that question , I do believe Jesus (IS) a Son of Man as all Mankind is also. And i believe He became Son of GOD at the Jordan when He receives the HOLY SPIRIT (IN) to Him, Just as we also do. Except He had the (fullness) of the…[Read more]

SF…………..Jodi was not denying that Evil (forces) exist, she was Just saying these forces are (IN) men not external of them. There is no such thing a Satan (BEING) going around jumping in and out of People. That does not mean evil (SPIRIT) (intellects) are not (In) people. Evil is a force that works in ALL the childern of disobedience. WE…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 14 2010,15:49)hi nickwe have a different view in the interpretation of “being born again” i believe Christ pointed out to is country men,that the law has come to its end and the true way would be now by the spirit,and like for the law God used a prophet like Moses,he now has send his son Jesus Christ to teach the true…[Read more]

ED J……. You cant even understand what you Just quoted ED J, (SO a man thinks so he (IS)> Where does it say anything about Him having a “FREE WILL” There, a Man thinks according to His knowledge just as you do. You accuse me of what you yourself are doing, and you have failed show us (JUST ONE SCRIPTURE) that say there is a “FREE WILL” (IN)…[Read more]

TO ALL…………The only true SAVIOR is GOD the FATHER, and no matter who He choses to do it through, that person is (NOT) the savior ,it is GOD Himself doing the SAVING. Rather Christ Jesus, or Mosses , or Joshua , or an angle or anyone it is still GOD the FATHER who is the (ONLY) True SAVIOR. IMOIsa 43:11…> I, even I am the LORD; and besides…[Read more]

T8……….God does live vicariously (through) His creation, I believe that is what you are saying and i do agree with that. “THAT GOD MAY BE IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL, . No one (CAN) physical see GOD, we might see the Glory He expresses, but seeing HIM, himself I don't think that is possible. IMOpeace and love……………………gene