Kerwin ……..Yes to percieve is a good definition for see. The seven eyes of God are what he uses to see or percieve all things through these distinct perceptions guide his thoughts and they are attached with powers, Jesus now has these seven eyes or perceptions with power on Him and these are the seven spirits of God we are told. peace and…[Read more]

Karmarie………….I believe no one can literally see GOD the FATHER, except though the eye of the mind, not now or ever will, Because GOD is Spirit and no one can see Spirit, it can only be explained as Jesus did about the Father. IMOpeace and love………………………gene

Karmarie…………… you have misquoted John 6:45 …….> It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of (or) By God. Every man therefore that has heard, and has learned of (or) from the Father, comes unto me. …..46, Not that any man has seen the Father, save he which is (OF) God, he hath seen the Father> Question is who are…[Read more]

SF………..I am comparing nothing of the sort, you are the one doing the comparing not me I just quoted the Scriptures to prove a Point. Changing it around to fit you perspective is what you and later JA Did. Not Me. Why can't you and JA just address the scriptures quoted without adding your un-posted scripture perspectives to it. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

JA……….. Self Aggrandizement does not cut it. Chosenone posted scriptures to you which you just simply ignore and proceed to ridicule his sources and him and me both. I am (NOT) comparing the desires of Sinners but gave (CLEAR SCRIPTURES) defending my positions. But you chose to interpret it you own way and bypass the scriptures with some…[Read more]

Kar……….Where doe it say Jesus has seen God at, Then that would make John a liar because he said No one has ever seen GOD.Show us scripture that says Jesus has actually seen God. In my bible Jesus said no man has seen God, but the son has disclosed or explained him. When he said no man that had to include him also right?peace and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2010,13:58)[?If Jesus became the only begotten Son of God at the Jordan when he was anointed, in what sense was he God's Son before?  And again, how was he the ONLY one?  Many others had been anointed by God and many others had received of God's Holy Spirit before Jesus.Mike……..I believe Jesus was a son of God b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2010,03:12)Quote (JustAskin @ June 27 2010,02:46)Gene,If we were discussing purely earthly matters then possibly so.But it appears this is nothing to do with any opinion you have because this is 'prexstnts vs prexstnts'Mike is arguing pre-Jesus. Therefore you arguing what you argue is moot. It does not help in the…[Read more]

JA…………I see your point brother. I will try to stick to topics more , i was under the impression you were using the topic of born or begotten to prove or disprove Preexistence of Christ. So i offered my butt in opinion. Sorrypeace and love to you and yours………………gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2010,14:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 27 2010,03:31)JA………..I am sorry Mike see me as a fly in the anointment, But if the ointment is polluted already then what difference does it make.Hi Gene,What are you talking about?  I never implied you were a fly in the ointment – that was JA.  I said:Quote But Gene and N…[Read more]

JA……Brother step down just a tad, So are you saying King David , who murdered Uriah the Hittite and commuted adultery with his wife having a illegitimate kid by her, not to mention on his death bed putting out two hit contracts by the hand of his son Solomon. Is God not able to forgive and heal all His creation? How do you know if God does not…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 27 2010,19:31)To all.I will say no since God put limits on us and what we call mistakes stem from those limits.  On the other hand people have been know to call a mistake a sin and a sin a mistake and doing so is displeasing to God.   I admit that sometime I have difficulty telling the difference because a sin can often m…[Read more]

JA………..Why do you say that in response to Chosenone asking you to post scriptures to support what you say , He has. If your bible say something different then post it, right? IMOpeace and love…………………..gene

Hay Mike………..Could it be that Jesus was indeed the only begotten Son of God (from) mankind at that time, because the Holy spirit Had not fallen on any other until Pentecost, Just a thought. What do you think about this possibility? peace and love………..gene

barley…………Good post brother.

Chosenone ……….Amen to that post , that seem to be done a lot here lately.Peace and love brother………………..gene

Quote (chosenone @ June 27 2010,05:43)Quote (JustAskin @ June 26 2010,20:08)Jerry,You have a very distorted view of Scripture which is caused by a desire ti impose some equally distorted view of God and his purposes.You select and search out the most distorted version of whatever you seek and then claim it as 'the real truth'.So sad. But so you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2010,14:22)Hi WJ,You asked:Quote My answer is…IN AND OF ITSELF, does the fact that mankind didn't KNOW that Jesus was the only begotten Son until Nicodemus PROVE that he ABSOLUTELY WAS the only begotten Son of God BEFORE Nicodemus?My answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT.  It doesn't prove he WAS the Son prior to coming in the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 27 2010,04:10)And unto JA, Mike says, 'You are my brother, today you have made some good points'Mike, only 'today'?Gene, greatful for the complement, but prefer if you make contributions with conscientious thought.Do you get paid to push your theory? You must be rich,… Or so poor you need to keep doing it?See, you got me…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 27 2010,03:10)S'truth Gene,Are you still pushing ''whatever''?Did you ever respond to … And whatn about Jesus saying he was going back to where he came from. John 16 and 17.If you have then please show me where or indulge me and write it again here.I'm fascinated by your'potential' response.Thank you.JA……..Don't think…[Read more]