Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2010,19:37)Roo,Where have I passed Calvin off as a non-trinitarian?  I only quote him and agree with him as to when the Son of God was begotten before the ages.  I would love to talk to Calvin himself.  I do believe that Calvin thought the Son of God to be the first cause of the Father and that the Father was the so…[Read more]

RM……………..Nick said the (CHRISTOS) Anointing was (IN) Jesus, i never hear him say differently then that. But saying that GOD was by his Spirit in a person do not make that Person the GOD that was (IN) Him. Can we all agree on this? The Spirit of GOD in us is the same Spirit in Jesus the ANOINTED or Christos and is the one and only true…[Read more]

Terraricca……………..More of your gibberish, and (NO) explanations or answers , just your work for your father the accuser of the brethren, who is at work (IN) you. You accuse other of being what you in fact are. You remind me of what Peter said ” Which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the others Scriptures, unto…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,15:48)…..and I thought Gene was supporting me lol.I have been in and out of heaven.web.nz on a number of occasions and designed that avatar especially for this place, because you are absolutely right Gene, you just can't win here.And no, heaven.web.nz isn't a typo because rather than it being a net bringing in good…[Read more]

Terraricca…………It is amazing how far you will go to turn away people away from the truth of GOD. Chosenone quoted the truth which you have rejected and come back with all kinds of your personal dogmas, and Yet in all this you and others have never produced (ONE) scripture that says Man HAS A “FREE WILL” (IN) him, That is a WILL “FREE” of…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 18 2010,01:30)How are we one with God?Peter ask Christ. “Show us the Father and we will be satisfied.”Jesus looks at him and say; “Peter have I been so long with you and you do not know me?”So is Jesus God the son or God the Father. Actually neither completely. Jesus the perfect matured man was filled with the Father complet…[Read more]

Chosenone………Amen Brother. God the Father is our savior and does it through Jesus our Lord, by His Spirit being give Us, (causing us to Will and desire to please Him) This is how salvation work, It is GOD'S WILL that is saving Us not our falsely assumed non Scriptural “FREE” WILL. WE are (HIS ELECT) we are NOT OUR ELECT. IMOpeace and love…[Read more]

terraricca………..Again you refuse to address the quoted scriptures , just mouthing off with all kind of accusations and lies about what i said or did no say. Your MO never changes does it.gene

Barley…….The example of the Pie was to show you that the choice you would make is based on the Greatest (INFLUENCES) in you even if it was that you were on a diet and would not chose any of them, that still was the Greatest thing Influencing your Choice, At that time.peace and love………………….gene

barley……. You have completely misunderstood what i was saying. So you are saying Jesus was lying when He said ” (NO) man can come unto me (EXCEPT) the Father DRAW HIM. In you belief you would say that was a lie because You believe WE BY our (non Scriptural) FREE WILL Chose GOD on OUR Own. The work of you so-called devil is to Not submit to…[Read more]

barley…………..Man separate of God will never chose God's will on his own. Jesus even said (NO) man (CAN) come unto me unless the Father draw Him. God must (cause ) us to desire Him, So unto each he gives a (measure) of Faith (trust in him). Many think (their wills are Free, But that are not. Here is an example, if i put before you three…[Read more]

martian………..one can reason that way in fact most all mankind reasons that way. But the Fact remains , this independence of God's Will and purpose was the down fall of man and still is. God Said He looked for (ONE) righteous man and could find (NONE). So evidently their Will were not that good. Man down fall was His separation from God's…[Read more]

-martian ……….Good points, barely, have you ever considered that the words Just (is implying the justified) and the word Un-Just is implies the un-justified and act of being in the position of something. We are told the Just live By Faith in Christ, not by their works of righteousness. Just wanted to through that out and see what you think…[Read more]

martian………It is truly about a relationship with Jesus and the Father as you have said brother. God said “I am found by those who seek me. We must truly seek him with all our hearts and i believe we will find Him and see Him in our lives. Like you say head knowledge is just that , but a relationship is what counts. I have seen God's hand in…[Read more]

ED J……….What support?, I absolutely Know the day of Pentecost was fifty days after Jesus' death, and He did not reappear on Pentecost but sent the Spirit of Truth from GOD the Father and It was poured out on that day and thousands were saved that very day.Where do you come up with all these Private interpretations of yours any way. A mind…[Read more]

To All……….Free will is a term used fro an offering from the self and has nothing to do with a “FREE” Will (IN) man. Pure garbage to try to force the text to say what in fact it does not say. Still waiting for (ONE) verse that states Man has a “FREE” Will (IN) Him. Assuming something say what in fact it does not say is a great cause of…[Read more]

barley…………Good post brother. I also agree with you on this, there are many qualities of a true believer given him by God.peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

barely…………You and Nick are both right IMO, the divinity is derived from the divine Spirit of GOD, Jesus acquired divinity when he recieved the Spirit into Him at the Jordan river, there he became a true son of God, He was that day begotten with Holy Spirit the first from Man to acquire that Holy Nature. If people could only understand it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2010,15:38)Hi WJ,Do you not even understand what I wrote?  I KNOW gennao can mean those 3 things ALONG WITH a literal “begetting”.  But yalad DOES NOT EVER MEAN ANY OF THOSE THREE ALTERNATE DEFINITIONS THAT GENNAO CAN MEAN.AND YALAD IS THE WORD FROM PSALM 2 THAT PAUL QUOTES ABOUT THE BEGETTING OF JESUS.  GET IT?  So the…[Read more]

Terricca……….So to you God is playing games with us every time your Satan makes any Challenge to him , then we are pons in the game of Chance and it really about your Satan and GOD . Pure garbage God is in total control of (ALL) things . I have shown you this before but will again Just so you can get your head straight on this.Job 42:11…..>…[Read more]