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    Mike………..Does God the Father have a (FORM) i think not, He is formless, He is pure Spirit, Jesus had that Spirit in Him so he did (image) or reflect GOD'S Nature to us, by means of the Spirit (IN) Him, What that chapter says is that Jesus having this Nature (IN) him at the time of his earthly existence did not try or think to rob GOD by…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 22 2010,07:36)Hi RM, You make him a superman none can follow.Nick……….That is the whole problem with Preexistences they turn Jesus into a Superman, a person we can't truly relate with, because of His special preexistence advantage and this thinking really does push Jesus away for our true likeness and therefore cause…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 22 2010,22:09)Therefore, those who translate, or prefer the teanslation that claim that 'Lord' means Jesus is 'Sovereign' are forcing the word 'Lord', of all its various meanings, to be this one expansive meaning for their own 'UnGodly' and 'Lewd' reasons, denying the our only Lord God and giving in to Satan who creeps in…[Read more]

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    Lightenup…………..Barely is right is what he has said sis. Jesus is now and always will be (SUBJECT) to the Fathers Will. If he were not then he would not need God's Seven Spirits to be IN Him giving him the understandings need to reign. He is sited at the right hand of GOD not as GOD HIMSELF. WE are told to honor Jesus to the Glory of the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    To all………..”All that is (in) the world the lust of the eyes , and the lust of the flesh and the Pride of life are (FROM) the world”. All these thing guide man will and his decisions and He could never by his captiated Will Chose God's way in a million years, So GOD must intervene in our lives through His Spirit and impart a new captivity ,…[Read more]

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    Oxy……………..More than you think brother.peace and love………………………………gene

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    JA………Thanks for at least serening what i am saying. But you can't have it both ways brother, You either have a will that is (FREE) and i mean completely FREE of (ANY) influences or you have a WILL the is an (INFLUENCED WILL). Now lets consider Adam and Eve were they not (INFLUENCED) By and Adversarial Spirit to disobey GOD or not?, was it…[Read more]

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    ED J…………if you would spend more time trying to understand what others are saying instead finding faults with people , it would serev you as well as the work of God much better. IMOpeace and love………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (t8 @ July 20 2010,16:15)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,05:29)Man down fall was His separation from God's Will. God does not ask us to obey Him He commands us to , the ten comandment were not the ten (if) you free wills decide to. God even envoked (FEAR).Actually that made man's downfall possible. But it was also possible that we would…[Read more]

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    ED J…………If you care to look up the wording FREE WILL used there you will find the Hebrew is not FREE WILL but voluntary offering. It has nothing to do with Us having a Will the is (FREE) (IN) US. That is just you assumptions that that is what that means. peace and love………………………….gene

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    Davidbfun………….The object i was trying to drive at about spirit was (IT'S) most simple explanation of what spirit was in a general sense. To me all spirit is thoughts that compose our intellects we have. It is neither male of Female in fact (IT) Spirit does not exist in physical sense. IMO Spirit is life because it (IS) intellect…[Read more]

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    Quote (theodorej @ July 20 2010,23:26)Quote (seekingtruth @ July 20 2010,22:08)Isn't that why we have a will…  to is choose between different influences? WmGreetings seeking….This can be a tedeous topic for some,but your question certainly hits the nail on the head….God gave  us all the option to choose right from wrong /good from evil and t…[Read more]

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    JA………Glad you do see that a WILL (IS) Not FREE of INFLUENCE and therefore is not a FREE WILL. That is why i ask for (ONE) scripture that says we have a “FREE” WILL (IN) Us , i did not ask if we have liberty to exorcise that (INFLUENCED) WILL DID I , in fact i have agreed that we are at liberty to exercise our (INFLUENCED) WILLS. Scripture…[Read more]

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    ED J………That is my Point there is (NO) FREE WILL that EXISTS. ALL WILL are INFLUENCED BY Our KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE ACQUIRED IN THE PAST, that is why The words FREE WILL being (IN) us is no where in scripture found, I am not saying we don't have WILLS (IN) Us , what i am saying it they are not “FREE” WILLS, but INFLUENCED WILLS. FREE WILL IS AN…[Read more]

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    Oxy………Good point , see not everything here is hamming your head into a brick wall. Your honesty is greately loved Here brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    barely…………I am going to slow this down. First there is (NO) scripture that says we have a free will (IN) us. Now the rem free will is to say it is a will that is (FREE) , So if we consider the word free attached to our wills, then that is to say our will are free of any influences of any kind, but a will by the very word itself shows it is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (martian @ July 19 2010,04:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,15:10)Chosenone………Amen Brother. God the Father is our savior and does it through Jesus our Lord,  by His Spirit being give Us, (causing us to Will and desire to please Him) This is how salvation work, It is GOD'S WILL that is saving Us not our falsely assumed non…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Terriracca………Is that why I have had hundreds of answered Prayers in my Life , have seen the dead raised to life again, Have seen an object enter my door when i was deathly and circle around my head as was (INSTANTLY) healed all these were witnessed by others who were there also. Have had many miracles done in my life , and prayer answered…[Read more]

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    To All…………ALL life in GOD'S Creation Have WATER IN IT, nothing that exist in a physical form is without WATER (IN) It, So when Jesus said you must be Born of or from, WATER and SPIRIT (Again) He was absolute right. In order for us to exist in the future we must have water the composition of physical life, and Spirit to create us again…[Read more]

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    Oxy………….I do believe there is a speaking in tongues but it only edifies those who are speaking in it , and must be translated for others to understand, Paul Said He would rather speak on word in a Known tongue then many in a unknown tongue. peace and love…………………….gene

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