martian……….A married man cares about things of his wife and a married women cares about the things of her husband, but he who is not married cares about thing pertaining to GOD, Paul's said. If you like i can quote all the scriptures dealing with this subject. there are quit a few, and Paul not being married had nothing to do with his…[Read more]

martian…………I have also seen Phil 2 the way you and the post of others you have posted have. But we need to also remember others have to be convinced because of much influencing that has taken place over many many years, It is good we contend for the Faith that was ounce delievered, and if GOD and Jesus our brother uses us for that work ,…[Read more]

Mike…………Martian is presenting Phil 2 that right way brother. You can not use it for any proof text , you need to try something else maybe another scripture will help you case better.peace and love…………………………gene

Db…………………No two people will ever see everything exactly alike IMO, rather married or not. I have to laugh at people who say they never have a armaments or disagreements, in their marriages that to me is a big lie and a Joke. As far as i am concerned after my experience in life i believe One wife is plenty, I personally believe a man…[Read more]

Mikeangle……….The problem is what all that does in your life brother, Jesus said my Joy i give you, look don't worry about things you can't do anything about, they are out of your control. as nearby every thing is in this world , but you can be a light and give hope to all around you by being a good example and supporting the weak and…[Read more]

TO ALL…………….There is no limit to how many wife a man can have it is not sin to have many wives, according to scripture, but it does causes her to sin by putting her away, because it cause her to commit Adultery . How (because it causes her to become unfaithful to her covenant she made with her husband). Adultery is not what most think…[Read more]

Mike………..The key is the word “form” to me that is simply saying Jesus was existing as a human being having fullness of the Spirit of GOD (IN) Him and Power with it. He had been given great authority by GOD the Father and He could have us that power to his own glory, but he did not think that way to be equal with God and taking some of the…[Read more]

Mike………..Sorry for the type errors, if T8 would give me back my editing rights i could have corrected it. ISA 44:24……….> Thus Saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and He that formed thee from the (WOMB), (I) and the LORD that (MAKES) ((ALL) things; that stretched forth the heavens (ALONE); and spread abroad the earth by (MYSELF). peace and…[Read more]

Mike…………..If Jesus according to preexistences created everything them he would have had to be in (THE) Beginning and No one was there in (THE) Beginning except GOD Alone. Here is something to chew on brother.Isa 44:24…..> Thus saith the LORD, they redeemer, and He that formed thee from the (WOMB). (I) and the LORD that (MAKES) (ALL)…[Read more]

Mikeangle…………..Do you realize you mentioned yourself over (FIFTY) times in what you wrote , maybe if your started there and prayed to God about that it might help brother. While yes there is Evil in this world and there always was since Cain killed His brother Able. But there is also good here to, remember what Paul said ” Whatsoever is…[Read more]

Mike………..This Glory was a Preordained Glory it is what GOD has Planned for All of Us to become His Eternal Childern, this glory is not just limited to Jesus but to all mankind. GOD was Planning this Glory before He ever started His Works from the very foundations of the earth even till now., Jesus was the (FIRSTBORN) Human to achieve that…[Read more]

Mike…………You have fail to make Phil 2, a proof text of Jesus' preexistence before his earthly berth. Because you can not show that Paul was speaking before His assent ion on earth or Before he was ever born on earth as you and JA and T8 (ASSUME) it is saying. IMOSo where do we go from Here brother.peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2010,16:25)Gene,When was the Son 'something' in the flesh and then made himself 'nothing?'  We do know that He had glory with the Father before flesh.  At that time He was 'something'…He had glory and was at the side of His Father.  When He was made  in human likeness, i.e. when He became man, is when He made Him…[Read more]

JA……………..More of your garbage, You have no idea what you are saying, I or martian do not deny Jesus was a flesh and blood being, it is you who are doing what the Gnostic's were doing, giving Jesus a superhuman or demigod status not us . So you like all preexistences as will as Trinitarians are Antichrist, just as John said, you deny…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ July 23 2010,14:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 23 2010,10:49)Hi All,This thread is ONLY for discussing whether or not Phillipians 2 implies Jesus pre-existed.Please don't post your opinions on the matter as a whole, but limit them ONLY to your understanding of Phil 2.5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who,…[Read more]

To All…………Heb 13:21……> MAKE YOU PERFECT IN EVERY GOOD WORK TO DO HIS WILL, (WORKING) IN YOU THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASING IN (HIS)SITE, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST; TO WHOM BE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER. AMENWell so much for “FREE” Wheller's right? peace and love to you all…………………………..gene

Mike………..you left out a definite article here (THE BEGINNING) Why did you do that is it because the Article qualifies which beginning it is talking about, (The Beginning) is the beginning of ALL THINGS Created into existence, Not some latter time period as the earths creations of seas and land and man etc. You appear to have left it off…[Read more]

Barley………..few scriptures , “There is none that does good no not one”, Abraham believed God and it was (ATTRIBUTED) TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. This righteousness was a righteousness of Faith (IN) GOD not a (personal) righteousness. Now lets turn to Jesus himself, “WHY CALL ME GOOD THERE IS (ONLY ) ONE WHO IS GOOD, AND THAT IS GOD”,and…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 23 2010,06:50)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 22 2010,00:28)To all………..”All that is (in) the world the lust of the eyes , and the lust of the flesh and the Pride of life are (FROM) the world”. All these thing guide man will and his decisions and He could never by his captiated Will Chose God's way in a million years, So GOD…[Read more]

martian………….”NO MAN (CAN) COME UNTO ME (EXCEPT) THE FATHER DRAW HIM”. JUDAS FROM THE BEGINNING WAS DESTINED TO DO WHAT HE DID, HE HAD (NO) SAY IN THE MATTER. and again “HAVE NOT I CHOSEN YOU ALL AND ONE OF YOU IS A DEVIL” < For he knew from the (beginning ) who was to betray Him. And again Jesus said He chose them and they did not chose…[Read more]