JA…….I would not say scripture says it is setting aside for rule of kingship, many were used as Prophets of GOD and not kings. The spirit or the seed of GOD expands a persons (INTELLECT) to more comprehend the things of GOD. We are said to have been given the (earnest) of GOD, the Spirit of Truth , the ability to recolonize the truth. It is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,15:28)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,15:06)Mike ……..So are we going to believe you trinitarian translated forced text , When the word in the Greek can just as easily mean (FOR) or BECAUSE OFHey Gene,I'm still waiting for you to answer the one that says all things are “through him and for him”. Col 1:16 NET…[Read more]

Kerwin………Scripture says Jesus was the (second) Adam, this means that Jesus was indeed a flesh and blood being and God can bless and Keep anyone at any time and Jesus was indeed Kept from sinning by GOD. But he was not empowered until He recieved the Anointing or Holy Spiirt after he was Baptized in water at the Jordan river> Now if Jesus…[Read more]

Kerwin………Scripture says Jesus was the (second) Adam, this means that Jesus was indeed a flesh and blood being and God can bless and Keep anyone at any time and Jesus was indeed Kept from sinning by GOD. But he was not empowered until He recieved the Anointing or Holy Spiirt after he was Baptized in water at the Jordan river> Now if Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,15:20)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,14:42)Mike………Interesting your definition of Antichrist and Johns are different He said if they do not believe Jesus came (IN) the FLESH (that) was the spirit of Antichrist , again you destory scripture to maintain you belief system.Hi Gene,I can't remember ever being…[Read more]

Mike……….The point being it was NOT the Water Baptism that (begot) Jesus it was the HOLY Spirit that did it. That was my point. It was right away (AFTER) HIS BAPTISM Not before or during but ( AFTER) when He came Out of the WATER. Jesus was not begotten (WHEN) He was Baptized it was AFTER when the HOLY SPIRIT came on HIM is the POINT. Mike i…[Read more]

Mike……….The point being it was NOT the Water Baptism that (begot) Jesus it was the HOLY Spirit that did it. That was my point. It was right away (AFTER) HIS BAPTISM Not before or during but ( AFTER) when He came Out of the WATER. Jesus was not begotten (WHEN) He was Baptized it was AFTER when the HOLY SPIRIT came on HIM is the POINT. Mike i…[Read more]

T8…….And aren't you denying Jesus came into (existence) in the Flesh , you believe he was morphed into existence in the flesh right, and had already preexisted , so to you he did not (COME) IN THE FLESH BUT WAS SENT FROM HEAVEN AND MORPHED INTO THE FLESH. But John said He came (IN) FLESH and I believe he full well meant Jesus came into…[Read more]

Mike………..Wisdom is (NOT) a Person it is an (ATTRIBUTE) It is being personified to show it is a distinct (ATTRIBUTE) of GOD the FATHER, that has nothing to do with Jesus' Preexistence, Do you see how far of the deep end you can go with that reasoning. Some will swear it is talking about Jesus , even though it is personified as a women and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,14:45)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2010,16:25)Maybe you need to look up the words (ALONE) and (BY MYSELF) because those words don't seem to be sining in brother. IMOHi Gene,And what about all the NT scriptures that say all things are through Jesus?  How do you answer Heb 1 which is supposedly about Jesus laying…[Read more]

Mike……….Please pay attention, there is a difference, WJ is saying Jesus was begotten by His baptism , we are saying He was begotten when the HOLY Spirit descended (ON) Him (after, after, after , after) his Baptism , He wasn't begotten by (the) Baptism but by (the) Holy Spiirt coming into him (AFTER) His baptism , the same thing apply s Now…[Read more]

Mike……….Please pay attention, there is a difference, WJ is saying Jesus was begotten by His baptism , we are saying He was begotten when the HOLY Spirit descended (ON) Him (after, after, after , after) his Baptism , He wasn't begotten by (the) Baptism but by (the) Holy Spiirt coming into him (AFTER) His baptism , the same thing apply s Now…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2010,00:33)Mike……….Separating Jesus from our (exact) identity is the work of the Spirit of Antichrist brother. It constitutes a division of the body of Christ and the work of the Spirit of GOD. Be careful brother that is dangerous ground IMO.Hi Gene,Preaching your own…[Read more]

WJ…………None of you options are right, Jesus was begotten when the Holy Spiirt came (INTO) Him (AFTER) He was Baptized at the Jordan River by John the Baptist. The same happens to us we are begotten when we recieve Holy Spirit or Seed of GOD (into) Us also. But like Him we are not (born) into the Kingdom of GOD until we are resurected. But…[Read more]

WJ…………None of you options are right, Jesus was begotten when the Holy Spiirt came (INTO) Him (AFTER) He was Baptized at the Jordan River by John the Baptist. The same happens to us we are begotten when we recieve Holy Spirit or Seed of GOD (into) Us also. But like Him we are not (born) into the Kingdom of GOD until we are resurected. But…[Read more]

JA………And what makes you think YOU are not (DELUDED) and your spirit gets broke because you can't get your way or give a good answer to the posts. By martian , barely, Adam, 942767, Kerwin, myself and others. So you just say we are deluded and that gets your ignorance off the hook by acting like you know what you are talking about when in…[Read more]

JA………Adam was first man created, not first(Born) Jesus was First one BORN of mankind that was begotten by GOD into the family of GOD.JA am i doing it right?peace and love ……………………..gene

Mike……….Brother martian is right in what he has said brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

Adam………..Good post brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

Georg……….Scripture says Jesus' body would not see corruption in the grave, but was resurected after three days and nights , and Jesus himself said He was not a spirit because spirit has not flesh and Bone as you see (I) Have. that was after his resurrection remember. It is imperative we are resurrected with bodies and spirit added back into…[Read more]