DBF…………………Bingo! you have it the will operating in the earth is Mans Will it is the spirit of an adversary and is a Will that is far from “FREE” , not Gods Will that should be obvious, even to the carnal minded, except for a precious few that is those who have his spirit (IN) them, these “GOD IS WORKING IN THEM (BOTH) TO (WILL)…[Read more]

DBF…………..there us no scripture that states Jesus preexisted, If you have found one please Post. forcing text to try to make it say what it doesn't (SPECIFICALLY) say is the problem. Preexistence suppose Jesus preexisted but give (NO) scripture show his preexistence or activity in any of Being , they can even produce one. Here is so simple…[Read more]

To All……………A word is and intelligent (EXPRESSION OF THE MIND) RATHER WRITTEN OR (UTTERED). Rather the mind of GOD or of Man makes no different. A word spoken from ones own mind is the same as the person himself. “SO A MAN THINKS SO HE (IS). GOD AND HIS WORDS ARE ONE AND THE SAME. “the word i am speaking to you (ARE) spirit (intellect)…[Read more]

EDJ……….Simple because our (CAPTIVATED WILLS) are influenced to in the wrong way. So Only God can (CREATE IN US A RIGHT WILL) Your so-called “FREE” does not exist no did it ever exist. Why do you think is says Jesus can to set the (captives) free, free from what? there wrong thinking which guided their wills. “IT IS (NOT) WITH (IN) A MAN TO…[Read more]

To all…………Jesus is the fulfillment of GOD the Fathers Plan for (ALL) the human RACE. He is the (FIRST) Perfected MAN from Mankind. The first Born into the Kingdom of God FROM MANKIND, The (FIRST) raised to eternal Life from the GRAVE, FROM MANKIND. Peace and love to you all……………………….geneBy the way where is our brother Mike at?

martain…………….God is bringing people out of those false Pagan teachings brother, and it is good to be part of it. peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene

EDj………..I am not talking about one in particular but the Antichrist teachings of Jesus preexistence and the Trinity. These (are ) the SPIRIT (INTELLECT) of Antichrist. They have there origins on Greek and Roman pagan mythology teachings and are not found in any old testament scriptures but only in text that have been forced to those…[Read more]

EDJ…………Where did i say we ever existed in Spiirt, i never said that, what i said was (I) have no awareness of any Past (EXISTENCE), and believe Jesus also was and is (EXACTLY) LIKE US . I do not (SEPARATE) Jesus from my (EXACT) identity as a Human Being in every way. I can see (NO) reason for GOD to Take a Preexisting Being and Morph him…[Read more]

Shimmer……….I agree with you that Love is most certainly a feeling. I once heard a an Hour sermon on how Love is and intelligent choice and emotion had nothing to do with love he said, Pure hog wash. “For God Pities us as a father pities his childern.” and again ” for you are sorrowed unto rightness”, and again “For godly sorrow works…[Read more]

To ALL…………> mans body was imortal at his creation, But he (ate) form the tree of Knowledge of Good and evil He started dying. “NOTICE WHAT IT SAY < " do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good ND EVIL, FOR IN THE DAY YOUR EAT OF IT YOU SHALL DIE. So they had eternal life befor they ate of the tree of good and evil it appears. IMOpeace…[Read more]

Mike ……….Here is on for you………..Luke 1:35…> reading from Young's literial translation….> and the messenger answering said to her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the Power of the Highest shall overshadow thee, therefore also the holy-begotten (THING) shall (future tense) be called Son of GOD. Now why was He called the son…[Read more]

LU…………Look up the word (ONLY) and you will find it can just as easily mean (UNIQUELY) Check it out.peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

Kerwin…………I believe the potential was definitely there for man to live in his body for ever, or God would not have prevent Him from taking of the tree (that which produces from self) OF LIFE. the tree of Life may be a regenerative force that keep regenerating Life in the body it is in. I thing the idea of flesh and blood not being able…[Read more]

TO All……… I added to Shimmers Post She did not post all of it so don't jump on her.peace and love………………………gene

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 26 2010,20:00)Luke 1:35And the messenger answering said to her, `The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee, therefore also the holy-begotten thing shall be called Son of God;Notice……….Preexistence Notice……the Holy Begotten (THING) not a Morphed preexisting (BEING) BUT A…[Read more]

DBF…………Hay i am not the one saying there exists a spirit (BODY) I believe a Spirit is what is (IN) a body remember. Jesus said a Spirit does not have flesh and bone as he did, (after his resurrection). So i believe Jesus did have a Spirit (IN) Him though , the one the father put back into his resurected Body. peace and…[Read more]

DBF……..Here somehting for you to think about , “TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY ARE OF GOD” So what are we to rty is it not what some one is saying and does not those words come from his (INTELLECT) think abut it it might dawn on you. Spirit and Intellect is one and the same thing “SO A MAN THINKS SO HE IS” . Is the light beginning to shine…[Read more]

DBF……….You do have a (WILL) which desires what you think. But is is hardly “FREE” at all it is Purely an (INFLUENCED) WILL. Saying one has a Will is One thing saying it is “FREE” is quite another. Any way if you have not got it yet i doubt if you will. So i think i will bow out of this for a while. peace and love………………………..gene

DBF………So the angles were not anointed by the Spirit when they followed the childern of Israel in the wilderness right?But scripture say that the Christos or the (anointing) followed the childern of Israel in the wilderness. But you can do what the Preexistences do and say that means Jesus was the one following them in the wilderness. Even…[Read more]

DBF……..This you have right , GOD is the one doing the Works , it is by (HIS) GRACE we are being Changed and (caused) to become right in our hearts and Minds ,OUR OWN SO-CALLED “FREE WILLS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. FREE WILLER'S are nothing but (I) GOD'S, trying to perfect their own selves by their own free choices. They have NO true Faith…[Read more]