Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 27 2010,16:15)To whomever it may concern,It seems that some individuals believe that Adam and Eve were not immortal before their fall and these people back up that conclusion by pointing to the existence of the Tree of Life.It seems they conclude that there would be no reason for the Tree of Life to exist if Adam and Eve…[Read more]

DBF……………….Yes what exactly is your POINT your are driving at, Who cares if GOD is Neuter gendered.Jesus represented him in the Masculine form (FATHER). But he also said He spoke of him in proverbial language (fictitious illustrations). BUT a time would come when he would show us (PLAINLY) about the FATHER. But the bottom line is what…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,14:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2010,21:18)To All…………Blaspheme is to speak out against something. If we speak out against the Spirit of Truth , is speaking against truth, there can remain no forgiveness for it. So what does that mean?. It simply means you (MUST) Change Because Truth will not change not…[Read more]

Kerwin………..No where does it say They were (BLASPHEMING) or (Speaking out against) the Spirit of truth, they simply lied about what they had done with the money from the proceeds of their sale of possessions. There death was a sign that added sobriety to the church because great fear fell on them all, as a result they all learned the lesion…[Read more]

Shimmer……….what you have said is true to a point, But remember these concepts effect our minds in who we see the salvation process. If you view Jesus as a (speacial preexisting being) having all the spical past associtions and knowledge. How do we truly relate with Him.One is He is a GOD that Created everything …….Trinity DoctrineOne is…[Read more]

martian…………Amen brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

To All…………Blaspheme is to speak out against something. If we speak out against the Spirit of Truth , is speaking against truth, there can remain no forgiveness for it. So what does that mean?. It simply means you (MUST) Change Because Truth will not change not now or in the future. So anyone who is speaking against it or (blaspheming it)…[Read more]

martian…………Right on ……..I have ask many times for (ONE) specific Scripture that says Jesus Preexisted before His berth. Nothing was ever produced Just questionable scriptures that can be taken that way by forcing the text . Just as where did Jesus ever say he was a GOD, there are not that say that so they just force the text to try to…[Read more]

To All………….FAITH (IS) THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, IT IS THE (EVIDENCE ) OF THINGS (NOT) SEEN. SIMPLE IS IT NOT, IT IS WHAT MAKES UP OUR HOLE BROUGHT ABLUT BY THING (NOT) SEEN , Has anyone seen God lately (NO) so how can i have (MY) EVIDENCE then? Is it not by GOD (INVOLVEMENT) IN MY LIFE THROUGH ANSWERED PRAYERS , God reveals…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 29 2010,00:27)I agree Gene, also many come through the great tribulation, whatever and whenever that will be, Others also believe they will be raptured away from that before it happens so when it does, they will not be ready, we should be ready for whatever happens, whenever it happens. Just as Jesus was.Shimmer…[Read more]

DBF………….Why is the gender of God so important to you. Male and female genders were created for procreation . God is (SPIRIT) that has nothing to do with Gender of any kind. If Spirit is what you are talking about Jesus said that the spirit was like the wind , that is the best example we can give, here is why. The wind is an INVISIBLE…[Read more]

Shimmer ……….Right on……….Many do not understand we must overcome (AS) or the Way Jesus overcame. Jesus is our Brother an (exact) likeness of us and we can overcome Just as He did that is to say the same way He did. But when people push his exactness away from there own the think Jesus had Special powers not available to them so , they…[Read more]

EDJ………..Sinning “Willfully has nothing to do with us having a “FREE” Will (IN) us now does it”. Because a man would not sin in the first place if he was not (INFLUENCED) TO. Again as explained before The scripture you are (trying) to us to support a faild argument is not talking about a man (HAVING) a Will that is FREE (IN) Him, But if he…[Read more]

Shimmer…………..Good Post. I see it that way also.Peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene

To All …………..All this yakking and no one addressing the subject of this thread. Why must Christ pre-exist? Let here son (GOOD REASONS) WHY JESUS HAD TO PREEXIST. Surely all you who believe he did preexist can come up with something. Put your heads together and come up with some reason he (MUST) have Preexisted. peace and love to you…[Read more]

EDJ……….Amazing not one scripture you just quoted had any thing with anyone having a “FREE” Will, Will perhaps but not FREE, or influences. There is not such thing a WILL the Is “FREE; You have yet to produce (ONE) scripture that says Man has a “FREE WILL” (IN) HIM. Only influenced Will and that does not equal to a “FREE WILL” That is why it…[Read more]

DBF…………..What i see as a problem you may have is that you seem to be taking everything to literial, much of the bible is symbolic , and there are many Metaphors and Proverbs (fictitious illustrations) given to make points, if you look at all scripture as literial it will cause you problems in understanding them , IMOHere are some…[Read more]

EDJ………Where does any scripture say Jesus used his “FREE” Will to do anything. He used His (INFLUENCED) WILL God was (IN) Jesus by the Christos or anointing given Him. Adding words again, i see o Well join the crowd. Suppositions , speculations, assumptions, inferences, mistranslated texts and illogical conclusions , beliefs Fostered by…[Read more]

DBF………..”man;s “free will” to do evil”………..Please show us that in scripture or is it another speculation of your.peace and love…………………………gene

DBF………..A word (CAN NOT BE FLESH) (IT) can come to be (IN) a flesh person, as the words of God were (in) Jesus. He (QUOTED) THE TO US. Remember He said the words were not Hus words. God the Father never was or ever will be a flesh being , but he can (live in a flesh being< "For God was in Christ reconciling the world unto (HIMSELF)" Notice…[Read more]